Increase SIZE of single oil patch

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Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Avezo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:10 pm

Problem:
Setting up an outpost for 50+ pumpjacks is tedious.

Suggestion:
Increase size of single oil patch to 5x5 or even 7x7, increase yield from such patch and reduce their overall amount per field. You have HD model for pumpjack so it should be easy to scale it up, right?

Why:
Games are for fun stuff, not for tedious stuff.
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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Tekky » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:16 pm

Related (but not identical) suggestion thread:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56449 Give pumpjacks mining range!

In a previous patch, the number of oil patches has been reduced, but their output has been increased to compensate. This could be done again, if necessary.

I see no advantage in instead making oil patches multi-tile.

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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Avezo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:30 pm

Tekky wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:16 pm
Related (but not identical) suggestion thread:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56449 Give pumpjacks mining range!

In a previous patch, the number of oil patches has been reduced, but their output has been increased to compensate. This could be done again, if necessary.

I see no advantage in instead making oil patches multi-tile.
Fun fact is, it was my own thread you've linked :)
Well, it was seemingly ignored, so I've come with yet another idea.
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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Tekky » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:15 pm

Ah, I didn't notice. :)

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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by bobingabout » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:57 am

oil patches are already effectively a 3x3.

Also, it isn't as simple as just making the mining area bigger, look at how ore miners behave. They pick a spot and mine it for a bit, then change spot.

Since pumpjacks are basically just mining drills that return a fluid instead of an item, if you extend the range of a pumpjack then it will behave the same way, pick an oil patch, mine it for a few cycles, then pick another. you gain nothing from covering more than 1 oil patch.
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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Avezo » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:21 pm

@bobingabout
I think you've misunderstood me - What I am suggesting is to increase size of both oil patch and pumpjack, effectively it would be still 1 pumpjack per 1 oil field, just less oil patches per entire oil field because they would be bigger.
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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by mrvn » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:40 pm

Avezo wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:21 pm
@bobingabout
I think you've misunderstood me - What I am suggesting is to increase size of both oil patch and pumpjack, effectively it would be still 1 pumpjack per 1 oil field, just less oil patches per entire oil field because they would be bigger.
Seems rather pointless and bad. That would make simple pump jacks larger than huge and complex oil refineries. Just doesn't with with reality. It's just a pump, it shouldn't be big. Also you would still have 50 pump jacks in your oil field for the same amount of oil. Just now it would be twice as large, require double the pipes and 4 times as much walking around. No way.

Isn't what you really want just fewer oil patches per field with higher throughput?

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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by darkfrei » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:54 pm

Avezo wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:10 pm
Suggestion:
Increase size of single oil patch to 5x5 or even 7x7, increase yield from such patch and reduce their overall amount per field.
Why not mod request? If the mod will be helpful, then it has much more chance to go into vanilla.

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Re: Increase SIZE of single oil patch

Post by Avezo » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:11 pm

mrvn wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:40 pm
Also you would still have 50 pump jacks in your oil field for the same amount of oil.
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Isn't what you really want just fewer oil patches per field with higher throughput?
I think you missed this part from the first post:
Avezo wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:10 pm
increase yield from such patch and reduce their overall amount per field
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darkfrei wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:54 pm
Why not mod request? If the mod will be helpful, then it has much more chance to go into vanilla.
I consider purpose of mods to be expanding gameplay, not fixing tedious stuff. Besides, they already know map generation is crappy.
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