You'd need to run 5 separate production chains by belt, and output 5 different resource types (the 5 science packs) back to your research facilities. Sure, it can be done, but it's... messy at best.Kelderek wrote:Not having access to requester chests does not equate to having to do things by hand. By the time you would be even considering logistic bots you already have belts and trains available. If you are desperate for that requester chest you could craft or move some science packs by hand or you could automate it using belts like everything else in the early game.Aeternus wrote:Bulk moving stuff by hand just to get something done just seems... wrong to me.
Funny you mention the substations. Those only need red, green and blue research... the same as what I'm proposing for logistics. You can get access to Substations early on if you really want to use those a lot.This is an entirely subjective opinion. There is no right or wrong way to do things in a game like this and the game certainly doesn't have a way that it "tells you" how to do it. You use the tools that are available and if later on you find a better tool then you can switch to that. Just because it's your preference to do a science pack build using logistic bots doesn't mean everyone else will. As it is right now most people will automate it with belts and then once the requester chest is unlocked some people will redo the build in favor of that and others will keep the science packs as a belt system and use bots for other things.Aeternus wrote: Intuitively the game tells me that's the best way to do it
This is similar to saying that substations are the best way to distribute power to your factory, therefore we should get substations much earlier in the game. The problem is that would break progression and greatly devalue small and medium poles. I can get along with small poles just fine even if I don't prefer to use them until I get access to medium ones and eventually substations. In the same fashion, if you get full access to logistic bots too early, then it may devalue the use of belts and trains.
Trains remain the go-to for long distance bulk cargo movement - mining outposts to main factory or smelter. Belts are useful for a steady supply of similar resources along a fixed path. Logistic bots are in my opinion the best option to move low volume cargo without the need for point-to-point infrastructure. Exactly the kind of cargo you get in many research chains.
Nuclear is expensive, yes. But even basic nuclear only needs red, green and blue research, albeit a lot of it. Kovarex is an upgrade to basic nuclear. Just as bot speed, personal logistics, logistics trash or bot cargo capacity would be to the basic logistics network.IMO the requester chest should be available no earlier than purple science and I am totally fine with it being high tech science as it is now. It's fairly cheap at only 150 science packs so anyone who is more desperate for early bot usage has an easy way to unlock it even without a full build of yellow science packs automated yet (compare that to 1000+ science of things like nuclear and kovarex enrichment).