With the new changes to fluids basically giving infinite throughput in a limited area, it doesn't make sense for heat engagers to still be providing 103 steam per second. could it changed to a more even exchanger:turbine ratio like 3:5, which would require only 3 less steam per second. it kinda just bothers me.
I don't know why the devs didn't change this with space age. maybe it was too iconic of a number and there's a "good enough" ratio close by.
Heat exchangers unchanged with new fluid system
Re: Heat exchangers unchanged with new fluid system
The heat exchanger is still providing 10MW, the initial temperature of the water is still 15°C, the steam is still at 500°C when coming from heat exchanger, the formulas from the wikis still apply : https://wiki.factorio.com/Heat_exchanger.
Changing the quantity of steam that the heat exchanger provide would also mean getting rid of that nice 10MW which allows to easily count how many per reactor core.
Re: Heat exchangers unchanged with new fluid system
Wow I never knew that. but the steam turbine production of 5.82 can maybe also be changed.
All of this system is based around the old fluid system having the pipe throughput of 1033 fluid/s over a distance of 100 pipes, which was so that you could reasonably supply all your heat engagers with enough water, an even 10 heat engagers per 1 pump.
With the new changes, pipes have pretty much infinite throughput within a limited distance, which is big enough for even the largest nuclear plants, as well as heat engagers needing 10 times less water.
This means that we don't need weird numbers like 103/s or 5.82 MW anymore.
A cleaner formula could still be heat engagers producing 10 MW, it would require 1 unit of steam being 0.1 MJ instead of 0.097 MJ, and this will mean that turbines would produce 6MW at 60/s steam consumption.
Honestly, I have to admit that I'm not sure if I even want this anymore. I think that these old janky numbers are a cool remnant of the old system and how the devs worked around it by shuffling the numbers is a cool piece of trivia. In a few years we'll be wondering how we ever lived with the old fluid system.
All of this system is based around the old fluid system having the pipe throughput of 1033 fluid/s over a distance of 100 pipes, which was so that you could reasonably supply all your heat engagers with enough water, an even 10 heat engagers per 1 pump.
With the new changes, pipes have pretty much infinite throughput within a limited distance, which is big enough for even the largest nuclear plants, as well as heat engagers needing 10 times less water.
This means that we don't need weird numbers like 103/s or 5.82 MW anymore.
A cleaner formula could still be heat engagers producing 10 MW, it would require 1 unit of steam being 0.1 MJ instead of 0.097 MJ, and this will mean that turbines would produce 6MW at 60/s steam consumption.
Honestly, I have to admit that I'm not sure if I even want this anymore. I think that these old janky numbers are a cool remnant of the old system and how the devs worked around it by shuffling the numbers is a cool piece of trivia. In a few years we'll be wondering how we ever lived with the old fluid system.
Re: Heat exchangers unchanged with new fluid system
There simply is no relation between the way fluid moves in pipes, and the constant used for temperature and energy value of steam.
None of this makes sense to me i'm afraid.
None of this makes sense to me i'm afraid.