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Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:06 am
by Reika
I have a video and a save demonstrating this just now with modded walls and green biters, but I first noticed it back in May with vanilla walls and red biters. Additionally, even on the modded versions nothing related to biter attack or hitbox or wall hitbox have been changed, which I confirmed with the prototype inspector. Nor does SqueakThrough or any similar mod appear on the "mod chains" for biters or the walls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHektFXHDTE

Re: Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:39 pm
by NotRexButCaesar
I'm pretty sure they are supposed to do this. At least the behemoths are.

Re: Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:17 pm
by Rseding91
AmericanPatriot wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:39 pm
I'm pretty sure they are supposed to do this. At least the behemoths are.
I'm not sure if it's intended they can reach through walls but I know they have a range they can attack from and that range allows them to attack through layers of walls.

So, it's kind of "how they work" and I don't see it changing; especially this close to 1.0 being released. Since their balance has been created over the years with them working this way.

So, with that in mind i'm going to move this to "not a bug" until some point in the future someone decides they want to go tinkering with biter balance again :)

Re: Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:05 pm
by Oxyd
Rseding91 wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:17 pm
AmericanPatriot wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:39 pm
I'm pretty sure they are supposed to do this. At least the behemoths are.
I'm not sure if it's intended they can reach through walls but I know they have a range they can attack from and that range allows them to attack through layers of walls.
Except it doesn't, they were attacking beyond their range.

Fixed in 0.18.43.

Re: Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:30 am
by Reika
*does a happy dance*

Re: Biters (medium and above) able to reach through TWO layers of wall

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:35 pm
by coppercoil
Oxyd wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:05 pm
Except it doesn't, they were attacking beyond their range.

Fixed in 0.18.43.
In 1.0.0 biters can hit through two layers of wall. Though, that's not a problem for me, I just move wall farther by one tile.