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[kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:33 pm
by Anon2k
Good afternoon, I played with the ultimate belts mod (https://mods.factorio.com/mod/UltimateBelts), but after updating 0.17.52, filtering stopped working correctly for me. I thought the problem was in mod.

However, I turned off all the mods and wrote my local mod, which increases the speed of vanilla belts 4 times (60, 120, 180): https://pastebin.com/1bHP6Vtn

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And at a speed of 180 / s, the objects periodically skip past filtering. I assume this happens for any speed above 120 / s.

Re: splitter filter bug

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:46 pm
by Anon2k

Re: [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:27 am
by Rothguard
i will confirm this happens on faster belts and i think it also happens if game speed increased to silly speeds

Re: [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:24 am
by mrvn
Rothguard wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:27 am i will confirm this happens on faster belts and i think it also happens if game speed increased to silly speeds
That makes no sense. No matter the game speed the game updates are still done tick by tick. The game speed actually just adds a sleep between updates to slow the game down.

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:07 pm
by kovarex
I tried to reproduce the problem, but it seemed to work well for me (4Xtimes fast express belts).
Could you please provide a save where this is reproduced?

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:22 pm
by Anon2k
You just have items on the belts too ordered on the sides. Need more chaos :D

My savegame from the video above: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VF-Ud ... WVWkZ6DLS9
Just scatter the plastic on the chests on both sides of the conveyor and 100% is reproduced, the steel periodically passes through the plastic filter.

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:00 am
by Anon2k
kovarex wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:07 pm I tried to reproduce the problem, but it seemed to work well for me (4Xtimes fast express belts).
Could you please provide a save where this is reproduced?
Now you reproduced the bug? Or do you need something else besides video and savegame?

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:53 am
by Owoshima
kovarex wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:07 pm I tried to reproduce the problem, but it seemed to work well for me (4Xtimes fast express belts).
That shouldn't be a fix though, since you're only using half the belt, the problem comes with a mixed belt, which requires a proper fix.

As such, as it currently stands this bug has caused a big mess in my lines.
(I'm not angry about the lines, that's an easy fix thank's to your quick solution :) I'm just saying it's shouldn't be a permanent solution)

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:05 am
by mrvn
Owoshima wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:53 am
kovarex wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:07 pm I tried to reproduce the problem, but it seemed to work well for me (4Xtimes fast express belts).
That shouldn't be a fix though, since you're only using half the belt, the problem comes with a mixed belt, which requires a proper fix.

As such, as it currently stands this bug has caused a big mess in my lines.
(I'm not angry about the lines, that's an easy fix thank's to your quick solution :) I'm just saying it's shouldn't be a permanent solution)
You mean because one side of the belt is all copper and the other all iron instead of them being all mixed?

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:27 pm
by kovarex
Thanks for the report, it is now fixed for the next release.

Re: [kovarex] [0.17.54] Strongly increased belt speed breaks splitter filter

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:22 am
by Owoshima
Hooray!