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[0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:04 am
by boro
Sometimes the game will stutter every 4 secs for no apparent reason until restarting the game.
See
https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 11&t=13295 and
https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =49&t=5607 for the older threads on this subject.
Doesn't seem the 0.12 VRAM optimizations have helped any for me.
My PC is still the same:
i7 2400K @3.4 GHz
8GB ram
Geforce gtx470 (1280 MB), driver version 355.60
onboard nvidia audio
Win7 x64 sp1
game installed on a raid0, appdata on SSD
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save:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/whnb4zznrcumm ... e.zip?dl=0
mods:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xwuofpysl9nm ... hLvfa?dl=0
Re: [0.12.4] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:36 pm
by kovarex
Well, for starters try to put the multisampling off, and change the video usage to lower value.
The 1280Mb of video memory is enough for base game, but with heavy modding, it is not.
By having lower video usage settings, you let the game leave more pictures in the normal memory.
P.S. The game is slow in the flip method, so it is some of the graphics handling internals of your system.
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:16 pm
by boro
I installed a video card monitoring program and when I load the above save it uses only 982MB VRAM (with 4x multisampling, 954MB without) out of 1280MB.
Next time I run into this freeze thing maybe it will show something interesting
The somewhat average flip line on F5 now says flip: 12.814/8.954/14.703 (not that I remotely know what that means).
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:17 pm
by KNOWFEAR1337
i think i might be getting the same thing as this, i am playing with all of bob's mods which hasn't been a problem before and a few much smaller helper mods; i can post a list of those if i can edit the post am not on my main pc,
but it was small freezes every few seconds from the very start of starting a new game, the only mod in there i haven't used before is the resource spawning overhaul i have also notest my SLI GTX 560 Ti's maxing out usage and dropping to nothing again right after and the game using allot of my 16GB of ram.
its still playable but it is quite annoying and does eat at my enjoyment of the game,
specs:
i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz
16GB RAM
Dx 11
- CPU, RAM, GPU, usage when zoomed in and zoomed out
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i couldn't upload my mods folder as it timed out but to list them i have
all of bobs mods [-clock]
autofill, air-filtering color-coding, landfill, larger inventory, radar-two, Resource Spawner Overhaul, SupremeWarfare test-mode And both Treefarm-AC +Lite
i have heard that Resource Spawner Overhaul, can cause some lag in the way the game runs, and this is the first time i've used it
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:46 am
by kovarex
KNOWFEAR1337 wrote:i think i might be getting the same thing as this, i am playing with all of bob's mods which hasn't been a problem before and a few much smaller helper mods; i can post a list of those if i can edit the post am not on my main pc,
but it was small freezes every few seconds from the very start of starting a new game, the only mod in there i haven't used before is the resource spawning overhaul i have also notest my SLI GTX 560 Ti's maxing out usage and dropping to nothing again right after and the game using allot of my 16GB of ram.
its still playable but it is quite annoying and does eat at my enjoyment of the game,
Well, if you upload the folder with your mods somewhere, I could at least try to reproduce it.
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:02 am
by KNOWFEAR1337
kovarex wrote:
Well, if you upload the folder with your mods somewhere, I could at least try to reproduce it.
i have edited my last post with some more details
is there a way i can pm you the mods folder ? i zipped all the mods into a folder on my dropbox
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:34 am
by boro
So it happened again on like the fifth launch of factorio today. I took some screenshots, restarted the game (left anything running in the background as it was) and then there was no more freezing. I see some major differences in gpu usage. Especially VRAM usage looks suspicious at only 400MB. To me it looks like 800MB normal ram was used instead of VRAM.
freezes:
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normal:
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freezes:
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normal:
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logs:
save
mods
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:58 am
by kovarex
For me, this is quite obvious. The time is spent in the flip phase. Which probably means, that the video card is switching things around to handle the fact it doesn't have enough of video memory.
Try changing the Video memory usage in Grpahics from all to high. With this set of mods, it reduces the atlas vram requirements from 807Mb to 525Mb, which might be the amount needed for the card to handle it.
It is also important to know, that lot of programs can eat the vram (and cpu as well) quite quickly. So closing all (or at least most) of the internet pages and other programs might help a lot.
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:23 pm
by yaatt
i chaange this @force-opengl=true and freeze away
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:48 pm
by kovarex
Great, thx.
Re: [0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:58 pm
by boro
My videocard failed and I bought a new one with 4GB, so I probably won't be spamming these freeze threads anymore.