[0.12.4] [kovarex] freeze every 4 seconds

[boro]

Sometimes the game will stutter every 4 secs for no apparent reason until restarting the game.
See https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 11&t=13295 and https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =49&t=5607 for the older threads on this subject.

Doesn't seem the 0.12 VRAM optimizations have helped any for me.
My PC is still the same:
i7 2400K @3.4 GHz
8GB ram
Geforce gtx470 (1280 MB), driver version 355.60
onboard nvidia audio
Win7 x64 sp1
game installed on a raid0, appdata on SSD

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   0.002 2015-08-26 09:18:09; Factorio 0.12.4 (Build 16397, win64)
   0.002 Operating system: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
   0.002 Program arguments: "E:\games\Factorio\bin\x64\Factorio.exe" 
   0.002 Read data path: E:/games/Factorio/data
   0.002 Write data path: C:/Users/Bert/AppData/Roaming/Factorio
   0.002 Binaries path: E:/games/Factorio/bin
   0.477 Initialised Direct3D: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470; driver: nvd3dumx.dll 10.18.13.5560
   0.551 Desktop composition is active.
   0.565 Graphics options: [FullScreen: true] [VSync: true] [UIScale: 100%] [MultiSampling: X 4] [Graphics quality: normal] [Video memory usage: all]
   0.962 Loading mod core 0.0.0 (data.lua)
   0.999 Loading mod base 0.12.4 (data.lua)
   1.645 Loading mod Explosive Termites 1.1.6 (data.lua)
   1.686 Loading mod Landfill 2.1.5 (data.lua)
   1.728 Loading mod TimeButtons 0.2.5 (data.lua)
   1.776 Loading mod Treefarm-Lite 0.2.0 (data.lua)
   1.817 Loading mod CORE-DyTech-Core 1.2.1 (data.lua)
   1.914 Loading mod Treefarm-AC 0.2.1 (data.lua)
   1.976 Loading mod MAIN-DyTech-Machine 1.1.1 (data.lua)
   2.169 Loading mod MAIN-DyTech-Power 1.1.1 (data.lua)
   2.297 Loading mod MAIN-DyTech-War 1.1.1 (data.lua)
   2.482 Loading mod CORE-DyTech-Core 1.2.1 (data-updates.lua)
   2.604 Loading mod MAIN-DyTech-War 1.1.1 (data-updates.lua)
   2.718 Loading mod CORE-DyTech-Core 1.2.1 (data-final-fixes.lua)
   2.848 Loading mod MAIN-DyTech-War 1.1.1 (data-final-fixes.lua)
   4.704 Initial atlas bitmap size is 16384
   4.708 Created atlas bitmap 16384x12315
  34.821 Info Updater.cpp:720: Downloading https://www.factorio.com/updater/get-available-versions?username=boro&token=<private>&apiVersion=2
  35.520 0 packages available to download (experimental updates enabled).
  35.643 Factorio initialised
  38.715 Loading map C:/Users\Bert\AppData\Roaming\Factorio\saves\_autosave3.zip
  38.777 Info Scenario.cpp:160: Map version 0.12.4-3
  39.246 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__Treefarm-Lite__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.246 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__Treefarm-Lite__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.250 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__CORE-DyTech-Core__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.251 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__CORE-DyTech-Core__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.260 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__MAIN-DyTech-Power__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.260 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__MAIN-DyTech-Power__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.264 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__MAIN-DyTech-War__/script-locale/en.cfg)
  39.265 Info LocaleProvider.cpp:127: Using locale files from the pre 0.11.0 structure (__MAIN-DyTech-War__/script-locale/en.cfg)
2354.851 Goodbye

save: https://www.dropbox.com/s/whnb4zznrcumm ... e.zip?dl=0
mods: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xwuofpysl9nm ... hLvfa?dl=0

[kovarex]

Well, for starters try to put the multisampling off, and change the video usage to lower value.

The 1280Mb of video memory is enough for base game, but with heavy modding, it is not.

By having lower video usage settings, you let the game leave more pictures in the normal memory.

P.S. The game is slow in the flip method, so it is some of the graphics handling internals of your system.

[boro]

I installed a video card monitoring program and when I load the above save it uses only 982MB VRAM (with 4x multisampling, 954MB without) out of 1280MB.
Next time I run into this freeze thing maybe it will show something interesting
The somewhat average flip line on F5 now says flip: 12.814/8.954/14.703 (not that I remotely know what that means).

[KNOWFEAR1337]

i think i might be getting the same thing as this, i am playing with all of bob's mods which hasn't been a problem before and a few much smaller helper mods; i can post a list of those if i can edit the post am not on my main pc,

but it was small freezes every few seconds from the very start of starting a new game, the only mod in there i haven't used before is the resource spawning overhaul i have also notest my SLI GTX 560 Ti's maxing out usage and dropping to nothing again right after and the game using allot of my 16GB of ram.
its still playable but it is quite annoying and does eat at my enjoyment of the game,
specs:
i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz
16GB RAM
Dx 11

CPU, RAM, GPU, usage when zoomed in and zoomed out

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i couldn't upload my mods folder as it timed out but to list them i have
all of bobs mods [-clock]
autofill, air-filtering color-coding, landfill, larger inventory, radar-two, Resource Spawner Overhaul, SupremeWarfare test-mode And both Treefarm-AC +Lite

i have heard that Resource Spawner Overhaul, can cause some lag in the way the game runs, and this is the first time i've used it

[kovarex]

i think i might be getting the same thing as this, i am playing with all of bob's mods which hasn't been a problem before and a few much smaller helper mods; i can post a list of those if i can edit the post am not on my main pc,
but it was small freezes every few seconds from the very start of starting a new game, the only mod in there i haven't used before is the resource spawning overhaul i have also notest my SLI GTX 560 Ti's maxing out usage and dropping to nothing again right after and the game using allot of my 16GB of ram.
its still playable but it is quite annoying and does eat at my enjoyment of the game,

Well, if you upload the folder with your mods somewhere, I could at least try to reproduce it.

[KNOWFEAR1337]

Well, if you upload the folder with your mods somewhere, I could at least try to reproduce it.

i have edited my last post with some more details
is there a way i can pm you the mods folder ? i zipped all the mods into a folder on my dropbox

[boro]

So it happened again on like the fifth launch of factorio today. I took some screenshots, restarted the game (left anything running in the background as it was) and then there was no more freezing. I see some major differences in gpu usage. Especially VRAM usage looks suspicious at only 400MB. To me it looks like 800MB normal ram was used instead of VRAM.

freezes:

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freezes:

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normal:

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save
mods

[kovarex]

For me, this is quite obvious. The time is spent in the flip phase. Which probably means, that the video card is switching things around to handle the fact it doesn't have enough of video memory.

Try changing the Video memory usage in Grpahics from all to high. With this set of mods, it reduces the atlas vram requirements from 807Mb to 525Mb, which might be the amount needed for the card to handle it.

It is also important to know, that lot of programs can eat the vram (and cpu as well) quite quickly. So closing all (or at least most) of the internet pages and other programs might help a lot.

[yaatt]

i chaange this @force-opengl=true and freeze away

[kovarex]

Great, thx.

[boro]

My videocard failed and I bought a new one with 4GB, so I probably won't be spamming these freeze threads anymore.