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[0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:58 am
by Holy-Fire
When "Use item groups" is unchecked, I don't get the old item interface; rather, the items still appear in groups, but I'm unable to switch between groups.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:53 pm
by kovarex
Thank you for the report, this is fixed for 0.7.2 now.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:56 pm
by Holy-Fire
kovarex wrote:Thank you for the report, this is fixed for 0.7.2 now.
Thanks, lots to look forward to. Any idea if it will be ready this week?

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:09 pm
by kovarex
This week ends in 3 hours, but next week it will bee almost for sure.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:28 pm
by Holy-Fire
kovarex wrote:This week ends in 3 hours, but next week it will bee almost for sure.
Sorry for the confusion, we start the week on Sunday here. If it's out by Friday noon it will be great.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:14 am
by Nirahiel
You start week on Sunday ?
Where do you live ?
Who starts their week on sunday, that's ... idiot ?
I mean, okay, i'll start my year on december, my week on sunday, oh and i'll start my day at 11 PM :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:29 am
by kovarex
Nirahiel wrote:Who starts their week on sunday, that's ... idiot ?
I don't really like this!
Calm down, there are countries where they start week on sunday, and there is no arbitrary reason to call it less normal that the way you are used to. And even if it was, calling someone idiot because if it indicates serious lack of respect of anything different than you are used to.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:13 am
by ssilk
In Islamic countries week begins at Saturday... There are countries, which have only 1/2 hour shift to the time zones. In most countries of Europe in dates the middle number is month, not day. UTF-8 has over 40000 chars and only the first 1000 are used mainly in Europe/America.

World is big.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:39 am
by Nirahiel
kovarex wrote:
Nirahiel wrote:Who starts their week on sunday, that's ... idiot ?
I don't really like this!
Calm down, there are countries where they start week on sunday, and there is no arbitrary reason to call it less normal that the way you are used to. And even if it was, calling someone idiot because if it indicates serious lack of respect of anything different than you are used to.
I didnt call him idiot, i called the fact that their weeks starts on sunday, idiot, not the same thing.
I don't judge anyone, I just thing that if sunday is part of what everyone call's the "weekend", it's because it's the *end* of the week, not it's beginning.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I sounded rude, that was not intended. :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:53 am
by SilverWarior
Nirahiel wrote:I just thing that if sunday is part of what everyone call's the "weekend"
Here is the problem. Not everyone has "weekend". In some countries there is no such thing as "weekend".

Luckily I'm not in one of them :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:07 am
by Nirahiel
SilverWarior wrote: In some countries there is no such thing as "weekend".
O_o
No weekends ? That sounds horrible !

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 am
by kovarex
Nirahiel wrote:
SilverWarior wrote: In some countries there is no such thing as "weekend".
O_o
No weekends ? That sounds horrible !
Welcome to the world of Factorio development :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:26 am
by Nirahiel
kovarex wrote:
Nirahiel wrote:
SilverWarior wrote: In some countries there is no such thing as "weekend".
O_o
No weekends ? That sounds horrible !
Welcome to the world of Factorio development :)
Really, that's a job offer ? :P

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:34 pm
by kovarex
Nirahiel wrote:
kovarex wrote:
Nirahiel wrote: O_o
No weekends ? That sounds horrible !
Welcome to the world of Factorio development :)
Really, that's a job offer ? :P
No, welcome to the world of poor indie developers :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:15 am
by Holy-Fire
Nirahiel wrote:You start week on Sunday ?
Where do you live ?
Who starts their week on sunday, that's ... idiot ?
I mean, okay, i'll start my year on december, my week on sunday, oh and i'll start my day at 11 PM :)
Israel.

Much of the world has Sunday in its weekend, probably inspired by the Christian idea of Sunday as a resting / church-going day.

But in Judaism the resting day, "Shabbath", is from Friday evening to Saturday evening, so weekends here mean Friday and Saturday. Sunday through Thursday are normal working days.

In fact, the word we use in Hebrew for Sunday literally means "first day", and so on. Learning that that's not the universal perception of Sunday was a shock to me.

We also have our own calendar based on a moon/sun combination, with year that usually starts in the Gregorian September. But these days it's only used for some specific purposes, most of the time we use the Gregorian calendar like everyone else. (But we write dates in DD.MM.YY format.)

I'll be happy if 0.7.2 is out by tomorrow noon, even if it's not the final release.

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:58 am
by ssilk
Isn't it not forbidden to play during Sabbath????

SCNR :)

Re: [0.7.1] Unchecking "Use item groups" doesn't work

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:08 pm
by Holy-Fire
ssilk wrote:Isn't it not forbidden to play during Sabbath????
SCNR :)
It is, but being only partially observant I make do with not installing games on Shabbat. So you see my problem...