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You can drop-into-assemblers (or coal to furns) holding the drop key and dragging the mouse around.
Usually this means a small timeout before spitting onto the ground.
Yet each new "selected" target automatically gets dropped-into.

Fun fact: if the target is still a ghost, it is a valid target! hehe.

expected: ghosts being ignored.

Here's a small showcase.
May the bugs get the taste of the bug hammer in this holy debugging war.

Thanks for the report. Issue should be now fixed for 1.1.87.

This behaviour was used in speedruns such as this steelaxe% run: https://www.speedrun.com/factorio/run/y4gdln2y
In the first 3 minutes it is used to feed burner drills and furnaces before they are ready to be placed, saving some time. This functionality is now broken. I hope some compromise can be made for cases like this.

I like the new behavior much better from a speedrunner perspective running other categories though. Stuff dropping on ghost was really annoying. Also this change does appear like a clear improvement for the casual player, so seems good to me.

Zaspar wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:28 pm

This behaviour was used in speedruns such as this steelaxe% run: https://www.speedrun.com/factorio/run/y4gdln2y
In the first 3 minutes it is used to feed burner drills and furnaces before they are ready to be placed, saving some time. This functionality is now broken. I hope some compromise can be made for cases like this.

Boy, I certainly want my factory simulation game to accomodate to speedrunners mechanics-wise, this is exactly the direction I'd like to see

An argument can be made that certain mechanics don't affect the average or casual player, but a speedrunner. Same with certain "bugs" or behaviours that were kept like the drop and pick button shenanigans a few weeks ago, even though they wouldn't be noticable to a "casual" player.

Hello,

For what its worth coal feeding into ghost entities is time critical for a number of speed run categories, off hand I can provide the below examples.

First 3 minutes of the steelaxe run, pre feed ghost drills/placed drills mix before during scaling up and opening:

https://www.speedrun.com/factorio/run/y4gdln2y

any% category the opening is time sensitive on fuelling of placed and ghosted entities especially during burner phase, another example is fuelling of a printed smelter later in the run where some furnaces may be placed during the time of fuelling as bots arrive.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1734441512?t=0h49m15s

I noted also fuelling of pure ghost entities seems some how slower when holding the button down, fuel is "dispensed" at the normal rate as if nothing is there. Potentially ruling out the mechanic in time critical situations.

Personally never considered this a bug, can any accommodation be made?

Cheers,