[pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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[pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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So I reset my game for 2.0 and I played some Freeplay and noticed the Tips & Tricks are empty and nothing comes up. I also played tutorial missions up to the 4th one and still nothing. I remember in v1 they would come up plenty, something must be wrong.
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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Can you please attach your recent save file with tips-and-tricks.log file?
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Pard wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:04 pm Can you please attach your recent save file with tips-and-tricks.log file?
I have the same issue, where can I find the log file. it's only a save zip file inside the Appdata folder
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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Pard wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:04 pm Can you please attach your recent save file with tips-and-tricks.log file?
I tried some command like unlock-tips and reset-tips, the tips window now show everything with each entity marked as read. and the tips notification won't show up during the tutorial and freeplay mode. Here is the save file and logs.
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Pard wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:04 pm Can you please attach your recent save file with tips-and-tricks.log file?

I'd like to have the new tip notification like this
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. Really appreciate it because this is the my first time playing this game. I tried portable version from the download page instead of the steam versioin, the tips inthe play-data file are all locked this time.
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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I'd like a message when this issue gets updated. Experiencing exactly as the above. First play through, bought space age as well through steam.

Into the 4th tutorial section and it only shows the tip how to clear cursor. A buddy says it is clearly a bug that the tips and tricks are not showing.

I won't submit a second file as it seems the guy above did already.
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Any workaround?

I have the same problem. I just want to fresh start. I can delete saves, can reset all other settings, but resetting tips is not working.
For some reason there's no such a button in the settings menu in the first place. But hey, ok, there is a console command /reset-tips. It cleared the tips window, but now no matter what I do - I can't unlock even one tip from that window, it stays empty all the time.

Could someone suggest me a guaranteed way to "test" the tips window, please? I'd like a simple set of actions which should trigger some tip unlocking and showing. So I can confirm they are not working for me.
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Ok, this is weird. It appears that player-data.json never gets a full reset. Probably, it synchronizes from somewhere (Steam?).

I have a game version in Steam, without DLC, just the base game.
  • Inside the steam settings I've turned off "Steam Cloud" for Factorio, so it won't "keep game's saves" in the cloud.
  • Uninstalled the game using steam's context menu. For some reason %appdata%\Factorio folder does not get deleted, so I removed it manually.
  • Rebooted the PC just in case. Installed the game from Steam.
  • Checked the %appdata%, Factorio folder has not appeared after the installation yet.
  • Launched the game. My "test" save is not there, which confirmed that the save data was successfully lost in the process and didn't synchronize from the steam cloud.
  • After the launch, %appdata%\Factorio appears. Inside that folder there is a player-data.json file. For some reason, it is not a freshly created file. It remembers the last version, e.g. it has console-history section with my previous "/reset-tips" and it has last-played section with "test" save-name.
So I don't know what to do.. The cloud sync should be disabled, but it's not? It's like partially working. And I don't know any other way to make a "clean" reinstall. Any tips?:)
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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Little update: dived into reading the Steam Cloud API... Thought it might be related to IsCloudEnabledForApp VS IsCloudEnabledForAccount. Performed a test: disabled Steam Cloud at a game level first, and then disabled Steam Cloud global setting as well. Didn't help, that player-data json file gets resurrected all the time.

I can see that Steam does not remove any cloud files, so they are still there for the API. And it looks like the game respects cloud settings in terms of the saved files, but ignores them completely for all other configuration files. And just downloads all the configs each time from the steam cloud regardless.
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Ah, I didn't understand correctly what the issue is.
Yes, the game always loads player-data.json from SteamRemoteStorage API if it exists in there. Which is how we now understand the API is intended to be used after years of trying to do it differently and running into issues with data not being synced when they should be.

Besides disabling Steam Cloud for Factorio you need to delete the file also from the local Steam Remote Storage storage ... on my computer it's

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c:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\31804381\427520\remote\player-data.json
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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Thanx everyone for your feedback. The main issue that we had here (no tips appearing in the tutorial scenario) was fixed and will be part of the next release. If you experience any new problems, please create a new bug report.
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

Post by pinecoffin »

This is great; I didn't receive a Space Platform Tips and Tricks awhile ago and my friends did. I finally decide to look into it today and you've just posted that it's resolved for next release. Outstanding.

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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

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This is great! I will wait for the new patch and give it a fresh new start for my factorio journey :D
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Re: [pard] [2.0.10] Tips & Tricks not appearing

Post by Panzerknacker »

Somehow I missed the other comments in this thread, good to read it is being fixed now. For me, the tips started appearing once I started another Freeplay game.

If you want to reset the game and also the tips and tricks, there is some more info in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=111092
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