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by gGeorg
Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v3, Modular 1-4 cores book : 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles
Replies: 54
Views: 12165

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf, Book of modular 1-4 cores : 40-480MW, Losseless, two power grids, all the bells and whis

1) Overheating There is no way to detect overheating 2) Freezing There is a simple way to detect when the reactor cools down too much. Actually more than one. But the simplest is to watch the amount of steam you have. But if you are using that to throw in some extra fuel when the reactor cools down...
by gGeorg
Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:01 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v3, Modular 1-4 cores book : 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles
Replies: 54
Views: 12165

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf, Book of modular 1-4 cores : 40-480MW, Losseless, two power grids, all the bells and whis

That's also why I would never recommend using the 1 reactor version of this. Sure you build that first to get some power. But the material cost to go to the full 2x2 setup isn't that big and the difference is efficiency is major. 300% more efficient. Time to upgrade the plant asap, especially befor...
by gGeorg
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Loading more than one cell at time for sake of "save_energy_of_swing" is false design branch. This idea creates GIANORMOUS needs of heat buffering to reach lossless requirement.

Build cost and UPS cost and power per tile (power density) says clear NO to this design idea.
by gGeorg
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:42 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

how much temperature difference I use vs how much is left for that hot/cold temperature difference For example you can have your reactor going 600~1000°C and your coldest heat exchanger 500~900°C in my design the reactors were 750° when the furthest exchanger was 510° when under full load for long ...
by gGeorg
Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

The bigger buffer you can have, the more efficiency you can have ! feel free to tell me if i did the math wrong :D Well, mmmPI your math is wrong. Now, I dont have time explain why, but if no one else does, I would later. Meanwhile would you test a new version of my Perfect plant ? I was finally su...
by gGeorg
Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:17 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v3, Modular 1-4 cores book : 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles
Replies: 54
Views: 12165

Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v2

Based on discussion in other thread I was successful to create Perfect cloverleaf 2.0 main features: - cold interval reduced to zero (fresh cell is inserted at the same tick as old is spent, all other designs include myself, have at least 17ticks delay ) - side effect of new mechanic of control - it...
by gGeorg
Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

I don't really see the difference between wasteless and lossless. Wasteless is about : "do not feed new cell if you dont need power". (typicaly 2N design could save lot fuel becouse scalability of power output ) Looseless is more delicate, it is about make sure not even part ( %) of a cel...
by gGeorg
Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:52 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

We are mixing 2 things then dont understand each other. Include OP. Regarding usage of fuel, (efficiency of fuel), There are 2 different design challenges in Nuclear power plants. 1. When insert another cell ? - cell always burn to the end in 200s (it doesnt pause when not needed like smelting oven)...
by gGeorg
Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:43 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Also, in your case, of heatpipes as capacitor, you dont have a tool too measure amount of heat stored in plant, so you dont know when insert new cell, so , as result, in case of irregular usage, probably with combination of solars and some burners, or simple bug attack repelled by lasers you will f...
by gGeorg
Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:39 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

dont think, you understnad what wasteless design means. It is fully automated system which can handle any spike or power ned drop for any period of time. Example : You start to make a base redisign so power consumption drops from 500 - 600MW to 4MW. Where you have an solar field which gives 10MW. M...
by gGeorg
Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:03 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

You only feed nuclear non-stop if you set it so manually, if you set it to 80% and have a spike consumption that would require 100% or 110% , this kind of plant will give you brow-out or intermittent black-out if left alone for too long. If the system cools down under the equilibrium temperature at...
by gGeorg
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

I didn't realised this. Using yellow inserter could save energy ! Sure. And build price too. how did you get the 14 ticks to load ? did you measured it ? Yes. Use editor, tab Tools, icon Watches - then you get tools for tick measrment. Priceless for any precise or combinator creations. I am not sur...
by gGeorg
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:30 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

FWIW, inserting new cells from a chest triggered by a pulse from the inserter removing a used cell, I measured a cycle time of 12015 ticks using the blueprint from https://wiki.factorio.com/Inserters#Inserter_Throughput. However, I counted (by single-stepping in /editor) 16 ticks with the reactor s...
by gGeorg
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:55 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Testing at full power during hours was the way to test this particular design where i wasn't sure that many pipes could still carry enough heat to the corners, it does if you consume equal or less than 997 beacons, which is due to the delay on inserter, not a heat pipe bottleneck. Supposedly i was ...
by gGeorg
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:29 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

We take for granted that a cell burn every 200 seconds right ? that's 12000 ticks. But if we use,as trigger for fuel,the ejection inserter, there is a small amount of time during which the inserter swing to get the used fuel cell from the reactor, during this time the reactor isn't burning anything...
by gGeorg
Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Really, you only need one solar panel to slowwwwwly drive one nuc's feed pumps and loading inserters, everything else will cascade-start. Only if you do some fancy grid prioritization trickery to make the plant power itself over doing anything else, a simpler method of which is to tap into the plan...
by gGeorg
Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Using the graphics card to help the CPU out…
Replies: 40
Views: 5977

Re: Using the graphics card to help the CPU out…

Here is an example of new generation game engine, it runs mostly inside graphic card. Each character has independent pathing and iindependent AI. All It is computed in the graphic card. Also get noticed all the arows in the air, those are also computed, balistic curve, and do damage on hit. Milions...
by gGeorg
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:37 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Which means the burner inserter that refuel the ejection inserter will do a swing every 40 days, which means it will need to confiscate one fuel to refuel itself every: 17 285.7143 x 3 457 142.86= 59 759 183 772.245 sec, 5.9E10 sec, that's 691 657 days, or 1894 years. make an independent power circ...
by gGeorg
Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

You don't need a fuel check necessarily, but if you're using the output inserter as a memory-less clock it doesn't fail to an automatic load if, for whatever reason, fuel is interrupted. If you have no fuel cell available and the output inserter tries to trigger the input inserter, the input insert...
by gGeorg
Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 255
Views: 28125

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

mrvn wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:54 pm
I am sorry, I have to finish our talk. Your arguments are nonsense and are piling up.

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