I've loaded existing 0.16 save with big base.

In oil refinery section all refineries were connected for Advanced oil processing plan.
But some of them were switched later to Basic oil processing. That caused no problems in 0.16
After map load in 0.17 water supplying pipe become marked for oil ...

now if only i didn't have to hold my hands together in frustration while the game pauses and takes 30 seconds to save my huge base. totally interrupting my train of thought, or biter attack. i brought this up before but no one seemed to think it was a great idea, but i would really love a 10 ...

Philip017 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:05 pm that steam over the reactor setup is too obscuring to be able to work under it

Adds more realism? In RL they usually turn off turbine, before doing some works.

But I agree, less dense smoke will be better.

config.ini
cache-sprite-atlas=true

Wonderful! Why it's not true by default?
Load time about 17 sec without cache (default) and only 9 sec after change.
1.8Gb atlas-cache really not a problem.

Do you have any more advises how to speedup loading, by chance? ;-)

Also, a question to DEV's:
Why you ...

I wonder, no beacons at all - is that some kind of challenge? Like "no bots" factory?
Some people are trying to put as many beacons as possible, other just interchange lines of factories with lines of beacons, but not using them at all makes you to build just much bigger factory I think, isn't it?

I have 1k SPM atm, and it uses 7.2M iron plates per hour. If we compare base size using iron plates, base needed to be about 7 times bigger then the one you've mentioned.

When I have 10-20-30 roboports and hundreds, maybe thousand of bots flying around them, serving some dedicated not big factory, like red engines production, or yellow bottles, every thing works perfectly.

But when I build some big structure covered by one drone area, like big ore to steel plant ...

I tried wave defense once, and found that it's a game mode that requires fast clicking and game rush (things I hate most) so I never tried it again.
In Factorio I enjoy the game because in a normal game there no rush, and the game is mostly about right designs and planning, not about fast clicking ...

Optera wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:34 pm Would be even nicer though if you added a check so it doesn't remove all concrete.

I think concrete is located in same layer as decorative foliage. And listed above code does not work with it - it only replace old tiles with new, according to changed map generator. So it's mostly cosmetic change.

Yes this code works. But it does not moves whole player made structures to a new map. It only replacing old terrain types with new, without any changes to geography and ore deposits. As staviq correctly mentioned, new copied terrain will looks really flat and lifeless, since we do not copy foliage ...

I was thinking at some point about adding a "cleanup" function to NiceFill, that would traverse chunks and fix inconsistent ground texture, and i might actually do it now that somebody actually has use for it.
There is however a problem of foliage, aka decorations that NiceFill currently ignores ...

I've checked NiceFill mod LUA code. I understand how he creates a new surface and calls map generator to create terrain chunks there, but I don't understand how to copy chunks (or tiles) from there to primary surface. In NiceFill that method might be a little complicated since he wants to copy only ...

I'm trying to regenerate map under existing factory (because it was created long ago with an old version of map generator).
https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=391813
Seems you know how to "ask" map generator to create new tiles/chunks.
Maybe you could say something useful in above ...

You are need https://mods.factorio.com/mod/NewGamePlus

That is an interesting option but not the thing I'm looking for.
I want to keep existing base, not to get in a new world, while keeping research and full pockets.


Does anyone know if it would be possible to store the contents of a chunk ...

Yes I know about that and another similar but older mods.
But question is about replacing whole map.
I suppose it might be done in LUA, by telling to engine that map need to be regenerated chunk by chunk.
Mentioned above mod also iterate all chunks, checking some conditions, and in the end deleting ...

I have reasonably sized base (360 hours playtime, 1k SPM, 1 rocket/min, ~8000 rockets launched) started on 0.15 map. Biters present on a map, normal settings.
Since change to 0.16 new chunks are generated by different algorithm so map looks inconsistent. But I used to it, to some degree. In 0.17 map ...

Subscription like $15/month is the best model for MMORPG. And it's the only place where is fits perfectly.

Factorio is a normal "box kind" single/several players multiplayer game. And price per box is good here. I paid once - I play forever. Expansions/DLC is another story, but since the game has ...

So we should assume that 0.17 will be available for download around 31 of January? Or earlier? Asking, because it's about a month left, and the date might be more predictable.

Yes, we can vote for our beloved game now!

I always thought that "Entities", if biters fit in there, takes much more space in a save file.
Because, when everything is calm, my save file is around 40Mb. If I start to expand and clear a new map piece, even not so big one, or do some manual artillery shooting (both actions leads to intensive ...