I started playing right away in 0.17.0 and didn't find the biters noticeably harder either (discounting the campaign which throws literally thousands of them at you for no good reason). It may have to do with differing play styles. My policy was always to exterminate biter bases inside my pollution ...

Dune wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:15 am

I hope the old upgrade planner is updated to 0.17, though its written by the devs, so it probably won't be. The new one requires bots, which you don't get for some time.

You might be interested in the Construction Drones mod (also made by a dev as it happens).

CDarklock wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:24 am

Which, please tell me, they are not doing to prevent the "turret creep" strategy... why, exactly?

Best guess is they just wanted to jazz it up visually since you don't normally see biters forming new bases on-screen. Had to be Starcraft inspired though.

It looks to me like you don't actually lose any research progress, you gain all the default research options (some of which are redundant). Clearly this isn't right either, but if you scroll down to the bottom where it shows completed research, the expected campaign-specific stuff should still be th...

This happens to me when I load a 0.17.4 campaign save too. I also suddenly had all normal (freeplay) technologies available for research. Seems like something off about migration of campaign saves. As far as I can tell it doesn't apply to new campaigns started in 0.17.5 or, fortunately, freeplay gam...

CDarklock wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:30 pm

I was thinking of Starcraft the whole time through that mission. It really felt like the Starcraft campaign.

They even added creep to the spawners.

Ohhhh. When you said "build", I thought you meant "install", for lack of a better unambiguous term. Like the opposite of "mine". But yeah, some kind of quick crafting shortcut would be nice. Only trouble would be that alot of modifier+click combinations are already take...

SuperSandro2000 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:31 pm

I want to join the discussion. I want a V100 cause my dad owns it in 1:120 and I loved it when I was little.

That's not electric though...

orzelek wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:11 pm

I did a clean one on 0.17.0 and overwrite on all subsequent ones without problems.

Alright, that's exactly what I did too.

Upgrade question: I normally use the Windows Zip downloads. Until the updater is working again, is extracting a new version on top of the old an acceptable way to upgrade? Or will this have any weird side-effects?

I'm afraid not. I only used one manual save for the tutorial, and I restarted it (without incident) after encountering this, so the auto-saves are probably not from the right play-through either.

You might need to explain this better. I don't understand how that's different from what it already does.

Items can be accessed by pressing 1-9 and 0... if that's what you mean, but that seems pretty obvious, so I donno if you meant something else.

Wait, what? That doesn't make sense. Bug report it. Ignore my other explanations. Alright, done . I was starting to suspect a bug, but I had a hard to believing no one else had encountered this before, since I really can't think of anything overly strange I did that could have caused it. Anyway tha...

I'm really not sure how I did this, but as shown in the screenshot I seem to be in an unwinnable state where I can't hand-craft small electric poles, and can't power an assembling machine to make them either... since I don't have small electric poles. I do have wood and copper cable, so that's not i...

Can't you change the assembly machine recipe and drop in the ingredients by hand? I could... but it wouldn't do anything because it wouldn't have power... since I don't have any small power poles to connect it with. [Yeah, that's the problem. You can't craft copper cables by hand at this stage. Thi...

Not quite sure what happened here. My first time playing the campaign I didn't have this problem, but I decided to replay it to see if I could handle that biter rush at the end any more smoothly, and now it looks like I'm stuck. Campaign.jpg I need to place a small electric pole to power my first no...

Minor correction: Enemy projectiles do lead. What they don't do is home.

Leading means they aim in front of you, where they expect you to be when it hits.
Homing means the projectile actually chases you.

I agree with postponing teaching electricity generation, the reasons given in the FFF make sense. Setting up an electric station is actually one of the trickier things for a new player (I remember having a hard time with it) and at the same time it really isn't as integral to the game compared to au...

I did think it was a bit of an odd decision to use the loaders here, since they're not part of the normal game. I don't see why it couldn't just use inserters.

One thing I thought was missing from this iteration of the "NPE" was the story. Obviously you're still going with the crash landing motif, it continues to be referenced indirectly, but never does it say "Hey, you just crash-landed on an alien world." I hope you intend to bring th...