when using linked-belts and linked-pipes, it shouldn't.

it will increase FPS (I tested this on my crappy laptop that struggles with HD resolution) by reducing draw time.


I tried it out, and it did not work out for me. It may increase FPS, but my problem is UPS.
I thought it might get me more ...

Just make a timer for each recipe. If you are building big enough to care about UPS, there will be many machines running the same recipe. Then it is simply a wiring challenge.

I build everything from raw material to science on several sites, that would make 50 or so timers per site.... You think ...

Still trying to optimize my factory and while watching and thinking I noticed that
Inserters move whatever they can get hands on, so worst case is a stack inserter with capacity 12 moves 1 item.
Wouldn't it be much UPS friendlier, if they move only when they get a full stack? Maye not as default ...

leniejame48 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:17 pm I have a wall around my base with turrets, but I have begun to get attacked by those annoying poison ball shooting things, and they take out my walls while being out of range of my turrets.

Place turrets near to the wall (just one space), and if available place some laser turrets here and there.

That only happens if there is an activated train stop with same name unreachable by rails, otherwise the train would skip the waypoint if all are disabled.

The miniscule proportion of these ideas that have any immediate practical application - the ones that have already been explored by many others such as the unitary smelter arrays / whistlestop factories / nuclear-reactor-array-in-one-entity, even the unexpected inflationary uses people are putting ...

I guess it's just something one needs a bit of time to get used to.
I use the Train icon on the right top now a lot more than before and I'm quite happy with the changes.

Ssilk will not be amused where (t)his tread is going.... let's keep on topic and be nice.

My 10 cents:
I'm always short on UPS, so everything that helps is much appreciated. Cloning (or similar ideas in other treads) might be a way to push the limits,
but I somehow think it will be very difficult ...

Not sure it is a real bug, but maybe unintended behavior.
In map view when you activate show worker robots, the game has to render these small squares for all the robots flying around,
which has quite some impact on UPS.
When you zoom into the map and get to the normal surface view, these squares ...

I was unsure where to put it, but maybe you're right

I ran out of memory too for two times, and it stopped after I ran chkdsk /f on all drives and set the pagefile size to manual with a higher starting size. Maybe that works for you too.

Why is it everything on this forum is "NO you have to play the game exactly like everyone else!"


I don't think anyone wants to make you play a certain style, just pointing out options how to solve your problem.

I have another suggestion that would work with art-train: Setup a circuit-timer to ...

ptx0 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:37 am Factorissimo2

Not really, it sure is a good mod, but will probably even decrease my ups.

TL;DR
Map view - show worker robots - don't render them when zoomed in


What ?
In map view when you activate show worker robots, the game has to render these small squares for all the robots flying around, which has quite some impact on UPS.
When you zoom into the map and get to the normal ...

From my testing the UPS cost of a nuclear powerplant is split as follows:
Heat exchangers = nearly half of the UPS cost
Steam turbines = nearly half of the UPS cost
Heat pipes = the remainder UPS cost
Nuclear reactors = negligible
Pipes = negligible

This is assuming an actually UPS friendly ...

Something I have seen no one mention as a use for active providers is mining: if the active providers are used on the output of a mine and you have storage chests at the train, then each chest will be taken from evenly rather than the nearest ones first.


I just tried it, and it's very useful ...

Rseding91 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:13 pm The time spent in "render prepare" is also counted in that 16.6 window.

Is there a way to bring that number down?

As I understand it, as long as the update time stays below 16.000, you have 60UPS.

Now I noticed that sometimes I go below 60UPS, even if the update time is between 14.000 and 15.000.

Does anyone have an explanation for this?

If there is already a storage chest holding one of the item, bots use this chest to fill up more of it until it's full before using a storage chest with filter applied.
The filter on storage chest works fine, but ONLY IF there is no other storage chest has that item already in and is not full.

If ...

I don't think that it has changed.
SPACE shoots to the nearest enemy unit, C shoots to mouse pointer if there's something like a unit, structure or tree, ground or water was never targetable IMHO.