disentius wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:35 pm

yep. Any uneven input or output screws it up.

Not with my balancer above, uneven input OR uneven output have stable ratios. It’s only uneven inputs AND outputs that the ratios are different.

Turns out you are right. Ratios change when both inputs are starved and outputs are backed up. I think I know the reason. When inputs are starved empty spaces are are introduced if the balancer is throughput unlimited the empty spaces are passed to the outputs, this retains ratios by replacing an it...

The Wiki states left from the Inserters perspective. The pic attempts to have its left the same as the inserter’s left. Never mind, read Wiki wrong/mis remembered.

Bilka wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:24 pm

... Inserters 7 and 8 have belts going towards them ...

Inserter 7’s belt is going north, inserter 8’s belt is going south how is that towards?

Also 3 & 5 have different items in the left lane.

Screen Shot 2019-09-02 at 1.15.44 PM.png The following lists which lane the insert picks from listed from left to right. (Note the first term is what I think the inserter is using) : Outer /near/left lane Near lane Inner /right/far lane Near lane Left /inner/far lane Near /right/outer Left lane Rig...

Serenity wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:13 pm

It seems like you really want belt balancers. Not lane balancers

_Ax_ wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:44 pm

... bus of 6 lanes ...

My bad, keyed on lanes ignored the 6. Yes you want (3?, 6?) belt balancers.

The idea behind lane balancers is to keep both lanes on a belt balanced. Almost any lane balancer will do this. Sometimes you may want both lanes to have the same items on both lanes. Different balancers do better then others with this. And sometimes you want the belt upstream from the balancer to r...

... now in 0.16 they send items randomly left and right and to not keep track of the type that just entered ... I don't know, these splitters are all behaving consistently though differently from each other. (This is 0.17 not 0.16 so this reply may not apply.) The output is a definite pattern, not ...

I had to increase the length of the output lanes to check the ratios when input is starved but it looks like the ratios are the same in each lane. Note the output is always a repeating pattern of 4 copper, 4 iron, 2 coal, 2 blank (it's probably 6 blank but I can only see when several are consecutive...

Here's my second attempt.
Note each belt has the same ratio of items just in different lanes. I've also tested this by blocking different output belts and it only glitches during the transition.

Thank you both for clearing up the details :) I agree. There is no solution that i know of for even distribution in all cases possible for a 4-4 balancer. My first attempt is a spectacular failure as what's mixed in the first phase is separated in the second! Screen Shot 2019-09-02 at 4.20.08 AM.pn...

eradicator wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:14 pm

Trebor wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:02 pm

Ok, so you want to read an arbitrary file, follow these steps.

You can not open non-.lua files even if they are inside the mod directory.

Just be creative with the hard link name.

Ok, so you want to read an arbitrary file, follow these steps. Install the Linux or Mac version of Factorio. Create and install an unzipped mod, so directories are real directories. Create in your mod directory a hard link to the file you want to read. If Factorio follows soft links, create a soft l...

mrvn wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:14 am

Would be nice if faster labs would buffer 3 or 4 recipes worth of flasks.

It would be nice if the labs would not allow inserters to remove the flasks it was using.

I like this idea because putting a little wiggle in the rails would mess with my OCD.

I’m trying a 4x9 chunk block with a 1 chunk border (so tiling @ 5x10) and ignoring all other constraints.

Do you know what the implications of this are: It means it's possible to have a standard 4 blue belt balancer that does this:
Factorio laughing at your math!

(Save include for your viewing pleasure.)

There are also pics of using 4 pure blue belt balancers with input gaps to balance 3 belts that are not arguably better.

mrvn wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:14 pm

Trebor wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:20 pm

3 belt balancer using 9 yellows:
Screen Shot 2019-08-24 at 11.37.11 AM.png

I think splitting a blue belt into a red and yellow belt and splitting the red again into 2 yellow only works if there are no gaps.

There is a pic with gaps earlier in the thread.

+1 for the above post.