Well, money aside, I kind of feel like all these posts saying “it’s EA, it should be expected” are being said as if we don’t have a right to be upset or hurt over the changes. I just feel like it’s like saying if someone was to go on a date with another person, but before that first date they were ...

I do not contest the general usefulness of statistics, but i would like to highlight some stuff that in this context makes some of the applications you propose difficult. The approach from general statistic is providing different information than if you have the equivalent of cookie that would give...

Because it is entirely possible that no further version ever gets released. That's obviously not what happened here. And, by staying on an older version, you also lose access to new/updated mods. Equally obviously I said that for the general case of EA. To show that steam tells you to keep your exp...

The 0% is unreal, but how would you know ? you can't, that's my point. "on average new player launch rocket after 3 month" , (just imagine i'm not saying it's a fact, it's just show how much data is missing for initial assumption to be correct) "During winter this time is /2", &...

Yes because people that does the poll are professionnals and use properly the statistics. ( and even sometimes they get it wrong because they start with wrong assumptions that they admit after fact did biaised their judgment) What you do would be the opposite of your example, you have the % of vote...

If they have access to these, then yes, you are absolutely correct. But we don't know if they do or not. Yes. I can say I know for a fact that developers get a lot more statistic information than the general public. I heard a developer praising steam for their statistical information. The rest is c...

means 456 players in Apri 2019 got the rocket achievement when approximately 1000 new players per month tried the game. So approximately 45,6% of new players have reached the rocket achievement. Not sure about that one. This could means many older player got to launch their first rocket unmodded, a...

Sorry but that is were you are wrong. The advanced players even if they enabled mods at some point for whatever reason during their progression never drop out of the total statistics. ... That said what you can do though and what BlueTemplar wrote about and what I think he meant is the change from ...

What you are saying is to make note of this percentage, wait a month, then look at the new stat? This is still comparing to all history. No. Wube surely gets absolute number of players at any time (developers have access to a lot more statistics, details and exact numbers, not a simple rounded perc...

It's EA fore a reason. While I get this, I'm also still a bit conflicted. I paid into EA to support this game because I liked what I saw and the direction it was going at that time. In 0.17, there have been shifts away from that. If it shifts far enough away, can I withdraw my support? Buy only rel...

Many players I know keep pointing to Steam achievements as the metric to show how hard oil is, and I believe you all have mentioned it once or twice. What occurred to me, though, is this: the people who have probably given the game a try and then quit are very likely not to retry after an update, o...

The problem is now more about the measurement of success. At the moment we all have just opinions about what the change will accomplish. Facts will be available only after some time and a statistically relevant number of new users had a chance to play it. But will Wube remember to check the numbers...

The point of the post I was replying to is that we shouldn't panic because this is still the experimental branch and subject to further change. My point is that the people who could give the desired feedback for the change wouldn't see it until it became stable and most likely not subject to furthe...

Except the target audience for this change isn't even playing on the experimental branch , they're playing on the stable branch. The people whose feedback is needed for this won't get this until it's been declared stable and extremely unlikely to change again. So please explain into which version t...

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I was already thinking that I should dial down my posting, and so I will, but... my posts insulting someone ?!?

That accusation surprised me too. Maybe morsk should post one or two examples to show what he means.

I'm ok with the oil changes now. "Roadblocks" have been addressed and there is even more reason for needing AOP now. The FFF didn't address any of the GUI suggestions, so Wube seems to think the GUI is not part of the problem. ... Please do note the GUI update is not yet finished. ;) Exce...

I'm ok with the oil changes now. "Roadblocks" have been addressed and there is even more reason for needing AOP now. The FFF didn't address any of the GUI suggestions, so Wube seems to think the GUI is not part of the problem. While I think this BOP alone won't really make a big difference...

Some people in this thread posted some GUI improvement ideas (for example this list at the end of https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=73443&start=340#p443944 ), a friend of mine had another one: * The hover window has a status line that is very inconspicuous with all the other i...

Did you even read what I wrote? I was talking about the problems with forcing people to use mods, none of which have anything to do with backwards compatibility or expecting the game to be static, and you rambled back at me about the meaning of the term "Early Access". And your random acc...

Wube are not pampering their players. 7 days to die and other similar early-access games are exploiting them. And you're so used to this exploitation that good development practices and treating the players well feels like pampering. Oh really? Then what can a developer do if he really wants to dev...