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by Belter
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Benchmark - Non-DI BPs - no mods - 500 lanes, 1 circuit controller - 4 runs x 25.000 ticks per save - drills: mining-productivity level: 2000, no modules, not in beacon range Saves - Belter v6.99 : my latest attempt, minimal # of belts - DaveMcW v6 : Dave's last BP with a different timing - Belter ...
by Belter
Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:38 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Belter v6.99 - Tried to optimize the layout using the 32 / 128 timing - My tests showed a little gain on filter inserters, so I've switched to them 0eNrdXWtv28gV/SsL9SuV5bxnjC4KFP0XRWDINp0QlSWBktxNA//3DkVbscgZc+65QYsowCYriprDuY/h8D4Ovy/u1sdm17Wbw+Lm++Kh2d937e7QbjeLm8U/2v39cb+PH25++3o47PY3v//+uO2OT/...
by Belter
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:26 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

That was my point as well - but I'll test it just to be sure.
by Belter
Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:51 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Dave's is the best so far, again... I'd replace the filter inserters to normal ones - same from UPS point of view. - Fed by miners, mining prod set to 2000, no modules needed ( I changed belter's save in that regard) Good idea, one less problem to care about (e.g. forgotten modules in the miners :D ...
by Belter
Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:53 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Managed to reduce number of separate CNs to 3 Why 3 if 2 also possible? :-) Belter v6.95 - Based on this BP separate signalling is possible, using green and red wires as only 2 needed. I'll do that a on the weekend and measure both - this BP might be optimized a bit... just make sure the timed inst...
by Belter
Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:01 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Looks good! Also some parts looks familiar :) Yeah, output belt layout was inspired by your version) Although inserter placement is changed to always interact with belt on underground input part, closer to the beginning of a transport line. Please don't misunderstood my comment, we all look around ...
by Belter
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:40 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Can you prep it next time? Sure, is there an instruction somewhere? See this great article: https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/t0nlim/guide_to_creative_mode/hyb2ozl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I attach the script I use - this is a modified version of the one mention...
by Belter
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:36 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Benchmark - Vanilla, all mods disabled - 500 lanes for smelting vertically after each other - 1 circuit controller/s for all - Ore: from mining drills w/2000% bonus, outside of the beacon smelting area range via belts - Plates: to infinity chests via belts - 25.000 ticks 10 runs - All overproducing...
by Belter
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:07 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

V2.1, should be significantly faster: Looks good! Also some parts looks familiar :) I'll measure it, created a prepared savegame. Can you prep it next time? Also adding DaveMcW's v4 w/mines. My plan to benchmark: - Flamz v2.1 (using the save attached here) - Belter v6.9 (re-using the save there ) -...
by Belter
Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:37 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Times - Using a verbose output and AVGing the times per <tick> mod <cycle time> we get a "fingerprint" of the BP - Data from this benchmark, UPS/avg Time charts are there - Verbose data attached here - Lower is the better Stevetrov 1f vs 2f - The difference is the 2 belt feed, which gave ...
by Belter
Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:33 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

flame_Sla wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:31 pm
B009-Stevetrov_v1_st 500 - mining drill has only one speed module instead of 3
aaah, correctied, TY! Also moving out of the drills from the beacon range just to be safe.
by Belter
Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:39 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Benchmarking with mines - Per latest discussion: drills to produce ore, 500 lanes vertical, one controller circuit, no mods during benchmarking Drilling Mine vs Express Loader&Inf chest: Drilling Mines won - Drills gave better results: bigger difference between results for the same BPs - Also m...
by Belter
Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:34 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Belter v6.90 I've added half belt feed to see if there is any benefit, a bit faster. Benchmarks to come later. 0eNrVXe1u28oRfZVC/Ssl3NlvoxcFir5FGxiyTCdEbUmgKPemgd+9S8p2Ymlp7pwR7Pj+yIUsaYc7Z2Y5nI+jH7Or2329bZt1N7v4Mbuud6u22XbNZj27mP2z2a32u116cfHv9beu2+4uPn++2bT7u92nm+Wq27TN5tNqc/f5vqn/2222zerT9tv279s...
by Belter
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:13 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Well, switching to mining drills gives the opportunity to DI drill->smelter. Let's agree that for here at least the ore should come in belts, outside of the smelting area, produced by whatever # or drills w/2000% prod bonus (so one drill can fill half belt, matching late game setups).
by Belter
Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:55 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

flame_Sla wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:58 am
use mining drills, this is the best option
2022-02-25 16-53-06.mp4
I'll test this - unless you have some numbers / saves to show with the parameters discussed above.
by Belter
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:41 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

disentius wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:22 pm
Stevetrov's build beats every other one, when properly setup and tested.[/h]
Ran your saves, Stevetrov is +1.5% in this setup on my computer, will add DaveMcW's BP on the weekend.

Results:
B008 results.csv
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by Belter
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:23 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

@Belter: The point of 2 belts is to use one lane on each belt, that reduces computations for inserters a lot. also, you used 2 infinitychests per input. this gives 500 more active antities to deal with.:) (If you want to know more, find "UPS wars" on this forum) Well, looks there is some ...
by Belter
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:19 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

How stable are the timing numbers? - as using a savegame with full smelters, it should be consistent withing the cycle (144 ticks) - so how much is the noise? 1st .. 25th cycle - I took the verbose timing data of my BP (Belter v6.80) and using the first 25 cycles created an animation - Using avg of...
by Belter
Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:54 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

It seems that number of express loaders and chests considerably affects UPS (notice the difference between Stevetrov_1feed and Stevetrov_2feed). EE underground belt has a much bigger impact... see here : 13% Use inserters to fill input belts, while making sure that number of infinity chests remains...
by Belter
Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:52 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15916

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

2nd run - I've run the same saves again 5x - got consistent results - 2nd set attached - My PC was running unattended, other apps closed Results merged and filtered - merged w/prev results - filtering out run #2 (Flomz data was an outlier) - filtering out run #5 (All data was inconsistent as I've d...

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