Disabling mods? Suggestion: disable, benchmark vanilla only - I was not that happy to disable mods for benchmarking tests but it came up there - How cooler is Editor Extension’s underground belt for creating ore / dumping plates? Yes, cooler than the vanilla exp loader & the inf chest - But as ...

I'm using the script w/my modificaitons from Factorio-Benchmark-Powershell
BTW a nice doc on benchmarking in reddit: /r/technicalfactorio/.../guide_how_to_benchmark_in_factorio/

Note: I've replaced my benchmark here as this finding made it invalid, as I've mixed vanilla and EE results. Will redo it with a consistent way, most likely vanilla. I've re-created an 500 lane test for 3 scenarios to test EE impact - Zero Mod EL: no mods, using express loaders / infinity chests (B...

Dear all,

Please move to 500 lane tests. Its more accurate. See my analysis viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101648

flame_Sla wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:22 am

probably the mod "EditorExtensions" strongly affects UPS

Removal of editor extensions would make testing more painful, I'm look into that now.

Problem - Seeking for more stable benchmarking results I'd expect a bigger load to give more accurate results - Like a smelting benchmark testing w/100 lanes (1000 UPS) vs w/500 lanes (160 UPS): 500 lanes should be better Test - I took 3 blueprints and ran them 5 x 25.000 ticks for each (see this i...

disentius wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:33 pm

already did that, see above results (davemcW v5) it looks like its faster, but the differences are marginal with 100 belts

Sorry I have to read back a lot! Processing...

flame_Sla wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:55 am

Belter,
why is a full belt used to feed ore?
it should be much better this way

To be measured! So you suggest that having 2x half belts is more UPS firendly as the insterers don't have to pick from 2 sides? This bothers me now

Was invited to post my version here, so here it is. Inserter timings calculation is described here: https://www.reddit.com/r/technicalfactorio/comments/svbupq/how_to_make_a_fully_compressed_belt_via_inserter/ Welcome here! Why not put signals 0/1/2/3/4 on the same wire? Can you do a left->right dir...

Lets continue at viewtopic.php?p=561883#p561883 where we came from..

And a feature request: keep the timers apart, I ant to use 1 timer per map of 100/300/500 furnaces) OK, let's agree on this. Also the reported UPS is a derived value made in the script I use, so i tend to use the execution time, min/max/avg as reported by the benchmark command as leading The scirpt...

Ruled out Windows Safe mode - same 1% stability in numbers
viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101643&p=561920#p561920

Hunt for more stable benchmarking results - Factorio benchmarks seems to have 1%-3% accuracy - I've tried using Windows Safe mode - expected more stable numbers - Also turning Debug on/off (F5 before save) and setting the speed to normal or 64x - just to see if there is any effect - expected no eff...

TY for testing! It is pretty interesting to have different results, even if the diff is low. For now we see diff output for 100 and 500 lanes. Havig the savegames is crucial and TY for attaching. On the weekend I'll do a scalability testing w/100/200/300/400/500 lanes to understand the difference. A...

coppercoil wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:00 am

First thought: wtf???
Second thought: lets make the graph correct.

First thought: You're right.
Second thought: Do you see the 1% mark with yellow on that graph?

disentius wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:55 am

Davemcw with substation will beat yours:)

Use v6.78 pls, not 6.75

Substation v6.78s is here: viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101598&p=561689#p561689 with saves.

Subsations vs Poles vs UPS optimization - I was interested what is the real impact of different electricity wiring setups - Using 5x100 lanes of Iron Ore -> Iron Plate setups, 3 x 50.000 ticks for benchmarking Wires-anim-.gif Map-Wireconfigs-.png Results - TL;DR: just use poles - Unless you create ...

Belter v6.78p - After fixing the timer I've re-organized my BP - signal compression is from DaveMcW - Finally beats DaveMcW v2 - +3.71% UPS. Not much, but consistent - No further ideas to improve UPS. Time to move to steel finally? 0eNrVndtuG8kRhl8lYG4pbx+qT0YWAZK8QS4Tw5ClsU1EIgkenHUMvXu6Od4VRdVQXX...

Mind the gap - the challenge! There is a clear explanation why the mini-gaps appearing. Can you find it out? I give hints - the last one is the solution. If you liked this challenge reply here your hint level 0..4. So: - top row has mini gaps - bottom row has no mini gaps Why is that? 0eNrlXU2P2zgS...

I recreated your test, with the following modifications:[...] Looks like substations are the better solution, marginally:) I really appreciate this, thank you! Your points are all valid and I will pay more attention for those in the future. Per the Avg UPS numbers Dave's BP is 1% faster than the po...

This BP has space for substations, which is almost never the case for high beacon setups. I'm sure I'll be slaughtered but... ..I added substatoins and measured the difference. 9000 poles vs 2000 substations.+0.8% UPS. Result is consistent at least for me. No idea why entity updates went up. poles-s...