I almost certainly overlooked the ones in the inventory.

BurnHard wrote:93,1% coverage
18 Miners =162 tiles and 12 tiles extra for chests and medium power pole.

No. 18 miners = 162 tiles, then you have 12 chests + 4 power poles + 2 empty spaces, so it's 162/180 which is 90%.

A new type of belt. When it dead ends into an assembler or chemical plant (or anything else that an inserter can insert to), it automatically inserts the stuff at the end of the belt.

OK, here is my Tier 1/2/3 factory, based on yours. I did not try to include the refinery yet. I think that with a lot of optimization I could make this factory 2 tiles shorter and narrower and include a refinery and two steam engines, but that would require a lot more underground belts and pipes.

There are a lot of posts in the "show your creations" section of this forum with different research factories.

http://www.desura.com/games/great-permutator

http://www.zachtronicsindustries.com/th ... gineering/

these come to mind

The problem with that is that you might have T and L connections temporarily while you're building the parallel pipes. I don't really see that as a problem. A recent version included the ability for small amounts of fluid to be pushed out of a pipe, so if you make an accidental/temporary connection ...

I, too, would like to see it. I learned a lot about factory setup from that map, including the 3 lane copper-coal-iron conveyor with power poles in the middle.

For now I'm just pumping all my light oil into a steam engine.

Without modules, or with the same amount of modules, one refinery does not produce enough petroleum gas to keep the plastic plant running full time.

I'd be happy if every T made a T or L connection, and parallel pipes did not connect. That seems very simple, and it would resolve the vast majority of use cases for parallel pipes.

Here's the 90% coverage layout. This is two copies of the basic unit. It tiles horizontally as pictured, and the vertical tiling can be flipped vertically and/or shifted horizontally.

Prototype is done, but untested. It sould produce 0,75 flasks per second (T1 to T4). All seems to fit in the 50x50 area of a roboport. :shock: To have the full one flask per second, you need tier 3 factories and 4 tier 2 productivity upgrades in the fatories for T4 flasks. Is it important that it ...

I like this. Very clean. I will base my next science factory on this (closer together, with a combined red+green output belt)

Also just came up with a method that packs in 19 mines, 15 provider chests, 1 substation, 5 empty spaces , which is only 88% efficient, so not as good as the method I mentioned above. I'll screenshot both soon.

I'll make a screenshot later when I can play, but on paper I can come up with a packing method that uses 3 miners, 2 provider chests, 1 power pole. So that's 27 squares of miner and 3 'wasted' squares, for a 90% efficiency.

M=miner (\-/ is the exit side)
C=chest
P=power
+-+|M|+-+|M|
|M|+-+|M ...

A few folks are working on making item recipe graphs:

http://i.imgur.com/GNmLseZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/jr7uwni.jpg

https://github.com/bluecube/factorio-lua-tools

I'll probably take a crack at making a tech tree/graph tool soon, based on the same code.

Noro wrote:Isn't it about time

No, it isn't. The developers have priorities and plans. I don't expect to see cosmetic changes any time soon.

To produce the same view as the 2d sprites, the 3d models would need *at least* as much texture information as the 2d sprite already has (more likely at least 3x as much, and more realistically 5-10x as much).
Animations. They don't need a full copy of the texture information per frame . I ...

But now that most graphics are 3D models, it's a major waste of space to use them as pre-rendered 2D sprites - with no mods installed in 0.8.8, the texture atlases are over 370 MB uncompressed. That's insane.

Every computer with 370 MB of video memory (i.e. every computer that is not really old ...