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by raidho36
Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #393 - Putting things on top of other things
Replies: 227
Views: 43313

Re: Friday Facts #393 - Putting things on top of other things

FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:19 am
Belts follow a linear progression in speed (+15 each tier). How is that odd?
I specifically explained how that's odd - it messes up the splitter math.
by raidho36
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:05 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #393 - Putting things on top of other things
Replies: 227
Views: 43313

Re: Friday Facts #393 - Putting things on top of other things

I'm just gonna bring up again odd item throughput of blue belts. You can merge two yellow into red, and two red into the new one. You can only merge three yellow into blue, or red and yellow into blue. Blue belts weren't good before, and now it makes blue belts a waste altogether. Just upgrade blue ...
by raidho36
Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:00 am
Forum: Off topic
Topic: PID controller thread off topic fork
Replies: 19
Views: 2363

Re: PID controller

All I'm seeing is a lot of "technically in principle..." and not a whole lot of "in practical experience". Like technically in principle during programming you don't need to validate function inputs because you can simply assume that they were generated as valid in the first pla...
by raidho36
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Off topic
Topic: PID controller thread off topic fork
Replies: 19
Views: 2363

Re: PID controller

Stock prices are what people choose to buy and sell for. That's not random, that's cause and effect. Only if you consider it "not random" if you were able to retroactively rationalize it. The way I used word "random" is to mean "you have no way of predicting the outcome&quo...
by raidho36
Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:08 pm
Forum: Off topic
Topic: PID controller thread off topic fork
Replies: 19
Views: 2363

Re: PID controller

That's a lot of pedantry for making no point at all; If I were to spell out every asterisk this would be an 800 page book. Better yet, you say I make wrong statements with no basis, without backing any of that up yourself. Well I'll have you know I analyzed about a decade worth of stock market data...
by raidho36
Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:29 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: PID controlled nuclear reactor
Replies: 0
Views: 528

PID controlled nuclear reactor

It's not the most fuel efficient way of controlling the reactors, but it's probably the coolest. reactor.png Vanilla version of the above contraption. 0eNrlW91u6jgQfpXIl2eBxs4vaM9Kq6206s2qOupFJYpQGkxrbUiQY7qLKh5gH2RfbJ9k7QTIDwnYblo4p0itSGJ/nsw3Mx6PzSt4jFZ4SUnMwOgVzHAaUrJkJInBCPxOMY6NvwjFxleDxMsVGxjf...
by raidho36
Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:12 pm
Forum: Off topic
Topic: PID controller thread off topic fork
Replies: 19
Views: 2363

PID controller thread off topic fork

And another one that's troubling me from a math stand point, is that without clock the accumulator increases really fast in real time to the point where overflow is a risk for high target value ; as the static error is added 60 times per second when the system is stable. That translate to an allowa...
by raidho36
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:25 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: PID controller
Replies: 4
Views: 1510

Re: PID controller

I'll explain exact purpose of each component. You got most of it right. Input control just computes the error, by subtracting current value from setpoints in the constant combinator. It does it in real time because it makes no difference and it's a simpler design that way. Input clock controls memo...
by raidho36
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:15 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

Truthfully, I have no idea how you'd even make PID for a reactor that is substantively different in energy storage requirements from a bang-bang controller. You have to have energy buffer for a full fuel cell burn cycle (minus any known constant draw) regardless of the control scheme. I do it in Wa...
by raidho36
Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:23 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: PID controller
Replies: 4
Views: 1510

PID controller

I made this to control nuclear reactors but in principle it could be used for pretty much anything, though there isn't a high demand for that outside of nuclear. What it does is applies additional power so to say in order to make input values match with the ones specified in the controller. For exam...
by raidho36
Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:42 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

But i'm not sure i understand correctly the thing you made to be honest. If you monitor when steam is low in tanks and trigger synchronized refuel at that moment doesn't that replicate the self-adjusting property of the PID controller for fuel insertion rate ? ( mechanically with belt backed up tri...
by raidho36
Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:56 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

You can also just wire the 10 belts to inserters with condition active if iron plate < 2 and stack size 1. 0 combinator, newb friendly. not super precise. The core feature of a PID controller is that it's self-adjusts to maintain the desired value. In Factorio vast majority of systems don't even ha...
by raidho36
Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:58 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

raidho36 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:52 am
Qon wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:17 am
I could design a PID controller.
I could too in principle
I gave it another go. If I just accept that the design will get ugly, I can get it to work. Here's the setup that maintains precisely 2 iron plates on the 10-long section of belt.
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by raidho36
Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:15 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

aka13 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:46 pm
raidho36 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:32 pm
I recall another game where you pilot a spaceship and can automate it
You have a name by chance?
I think it's called Nimbatus. It might be dead, and not in a benign way.
by raidho36
Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:32 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

In ShenzhenIO the whole game is about the same thing, when you compete for the top bracket you are fully experiencing the game core mechanic as intended, whereas in factorio when making a PID controller for a nuclear plant you are pushing a mechanic, expecting a lot of it, maybe due to your already...
by raidho36
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:52 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

I could design a PID controller. I could too in principle - In TIS100 and ShenzhenIO I would consistently end up in top brackets. It's just seriously not fun to do in Factorio. Recently I've been developing a game that's basically a Vampire Survivors clone. Every piece was there but the game just w...
by raidho36
Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:11 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

If you actually had done some big and advanced contraption then you would know why being forced to assign wires to channels every time you wire things together would drive anyone completely insane. And not having the option of organizing your wires so that they are possible to visually identify wou...
by raidho36
Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:51 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

All I'm seeing is ad-hoc excuses -not reasons- why [CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION] is overall the best, and shouldn't be touched. Thankfully, the devs don't share your view. Otherwise we wouldn't have had new rails. I mean really. Creating a huge mess of wires and combinators is a perfectly good solution,...
by raidho36
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:40 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring
Replies: 153
Views: 24713

Re: Friday Facts #379 - Abstract rewiring

Voting for adding blue signal wire. Better yet, make signal system not depend on the color of the wire. Simplify the system to "power wire" and "data wire", like mains and fiber. Solve the signal separation by being able to specify an abstract data channel(s) within the data wire...
by raidho36
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #358 - Alien decoratives & Polluted water
Replies: 71
Views: 32764

Re: Friday Facts #358 - Alien decoratives & Polluted water

Polluted water should be something like gray-brown color. Green water looks like algae bloom which, while not healthy for the ecosystem, is an indication of good quality water. Algae blooms happen when nutrients (not toxins!) are released into the water faster than the ecosystem can adapt, resulting...

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