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Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:24 pm
by Avezo
This is random non-rational nor well-thought rant.

Actually there is no rant, just me whining there is so much 'dirty' 'steampunky' aspects in this game, yet so little 'end-game' 'clean' 'edgy' and whatnot devices/weapons/whatevers. Really wish there was more to this than just green modules.

Hope this gets taken as an actual vaulable feedback anyway.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:57 pm
by Cordylus
I strongly disagree with you.
One of the best parts of the Factorio is that original "dieselpunk" technology theme.

The "clean" and "edgy" machines would be worst graphical thing to implement there.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:07 pm
by Nilaus
I think you have a point... Though maybe not "more" vs. "less", but just a logical flow from steampunky when dealing with steam, boilers etc and a gradual transition to more high tech and "clean" towards the end game.
Some of the big mods like Angel, Bob and Yuoki have a much cleaner look (probably also due to it being more work to make it look worn). This does seem to create a disconnect, but on the other hand it is clear to tell the "new" i.e. modded parts of the base from the old.

I always come back to my science setup during late came and laugh at the pathetic yellow inserters and grey assemblers. I'd love it if there were more worn, battered and "steampunky" than the green inserter and yellow assemblers.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:56 am
by Mooncat
Your spaceship has crashed and now you are alone on this unfamiliar alien planet. You are eager to build a rocket to escape or call for help ASAP. So you shouldn't care how the machine looks. You just need to make sure they work. ;)

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:03 am
by sparr
If you can find an artist willing to do all the techno art, you can easily publish a mod that replaces all the sprites.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:07 am
by ribsngibs
sparr wrote:If you can find an artist willing to do all the techno art, you can easily publish a mod that replaces all the sprites.
Better yet, be the artist willing to do all the techno art.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:30 am
by Ghoulish
For me the steampunky nature is spot on.

I wonder how much time it would take to redraw all the sprites, just a random thought. Weeks? Months? I recall they were trying to get funding for OpenTTD (through patreon to pay for a graphic artist) SO they could get higher quaslity sprites, Though I believe it never happened.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:50 pm
by sparr
That depends on the quality of sprites that you want. I actually loved the "low art" iconic sprites of Factorio around v0.6, when inserter bases were solid grey rectangles. If you want stuff like that, a decent pixel artist could probably crank out a complete replacement set of sprites in under a hundred hours.

If you want stuff the quality of Factorio 0.12, you're going to need on the order of a thousand hours.

If you want stuff at the quality of the latest high res screenshots from the devs... Thousands of hours, and 3d modeling not just sprite artists.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:52 pm
by Deadly-Bagel
Pretty sure it's not that extreme. Something similar to the current models, maybe an hour to come up with a sketch, a couple of hours to flesh it out, a few more hours to add some little animations to it. Inserters or trains would require more time if you're willing to try to replace them.

It depends the level you're willing to go to. Going for the futuristic, curvy white minimalist design, someone could beat out everything in a day easily. If you want visible laser cutters and such, yeah you could probably run into thousands of hours pretty easily.

Re: Be less 'steampunk', more 'techno'

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:16 am
by Mooncat
Deadly-Bagel wrote:Going for the futuristic, curvy white minimalist design, someone could beat out everything in a day easily.
Like this? y.petremann's FactoCAD :lol: