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Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:27 am
by MrDoomah
Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Win 10 Home
CPU: intel i7 5500U @ 2,91 GHz (automatic overclock thingy)
GPU: GTX 850M
RAM: 8GB DDR3 (dunno where I can read the actual speed)
Storage: 1TB SSHD
Average UPS: 21900
Average FPS: 21.8
Screenshot: Image

Also notice that in every post so far, that the fps is always 1/1000 of the ups, indicating that it's severely cpu limited and not gpu limited.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:55 am
by Alekthefirst
MrDoomah wrote: RAM: 8GB DDR3 (dunno where I can read the actual speed)
CPU-z can read the speeds, you don't need to submit yours, but we are currently trying to figure out if "First Steps" on high game speeds are limited by CPU or RAM. Currently my results when comparing to other benchmarks tells me that CPU is really the bottleneck, but both DaveMcW and Rsesding (VERY experienced factorio users) says that RAM would be more of a limitation to the performance than CPU would in my testing, so im waiting for my shiny new ram sticks in the mail to confirm wether or not better RAM impacts performance on "First Steps"

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am
by Alekthefirst
sillyfly wrote:It would be interesting to see how these results differ on a map with actual things happening (maybe make a simple saved-game with a belt and inserter loop, and a few logistic bots flying around...)
I didn't want people to download some map i made, so i went for what i thought to be the easiest option.
keyboardhack wrote:Noticed a trend with RAM speed
Obviously this could just be a coincidence.
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This is what i get with more tests incorporated. Seems more skewed towards CPU performance for me, and that the 1333MHz block just happens to be put together with the generally weaker cpus.
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pedter wrote: Try plotting CPU speed vs. UPS instead?
CPU clock speeds matters only within the same CPU generations. Newer CPU generations usually gets more performance per clock.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:39 pm
by madpav3l
So here is mine..
Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Win 10 Pro x64
CPU: Core i7 6700K @ 4,5 GHz
GPU: GTX 980 Ti
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
Storage: 1TB SSD (Samsung 850 Evo)

Average UPS: 40000
Average FPS: 40
Screenshot

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:59 pm
by Xterminator
Here are my scores:
Factorio version 0.12.17
Specs:
OS: Win 7 Premium 64bit
CPU: i7-3610QM @2.30ghz (8 CPUS)
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GT 630m 2GB
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Stoage: 300GB HDD

Average UPS: 13750 (fluctuated from like 13620-13900)
Average FPS: 14

Notes: Was on 0.12.17 rather than 0.12.19, hope that didn't matter much but didn't have time to upgrade. Had a few other things running in background but shouldn't of affected it much.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:28 am
by sillyfly
Here are my results:
Factorio version 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Debian (testing), 64bit
CPU: i5-3210M @2.50GHz
GPU: Integrated Intel HD4000
RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
Storage: SSD (Crucial M4)

Average UPS: 21000 (fluctuated around 20600-21400)
Average FPS: 21
screenshot

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:40 am
by dragonboy1127
Figured I would add to this.

Factorio version 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Win 7 Home, 64bit
CPU: Intel i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz (default)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz
Storage: 1TB Western Digital 7200RPM Enterprise HDD
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I also decided to try it on my mother's (much older) computer and my stepfather's (much newer) laptop just for fun.

PC2 (old PC):
Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Win 10 Home 64bit
CPU: Intel Pentium E5300 @2.60GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 5450
RAM: 6GB DDR2 800MHz
Storage: Hitachi 640GB 7200RPM HDD
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PC3 (new laptop):
Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Win 10 Home 64bit
CPU: Intel i5-5200U @2.20GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 5500
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
Storage: Samsung 1TB 5400RPM HDD
screenshot

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:32 am
by kovarex
This is a good idea, but I strongly believe, that it should be tested on some specific save with huge factory instead.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:00 am
by Alekthefirst
kovarex wrote:This is a good idea, but I strongly believe, that it should be tested on some specific save with huge factory instead.
That was my original idea, yes. But i decided against it as i didn't think everyone would want to download some map. I may have time to make a new test out of another map later tonight, and in that case i can also create a comparison between observed performance on First Hope vs. the observed performance in a big factory map. If you have a suggestion on what map i could use though, feel free to contribute ;)

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:03 am
by ratchetfreak
kovarex wrote:This is a good idea, but I strongly believe, that it should be tested on some specific save with huge factory instead.
a set of maps may actually be better

where 1 is an empty map as a null reading

one has a ton of active belts

one has a ton of active robots

one has a ton of active biters

etc.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:35 pm
by kovarex
ratchetfreak wrote:
kovarex wrote:This is a good idea, but I strongly believe, that it should be tested on some specific save with huge factory instead.
a set of maps may actually be better

where 1 is an empty map as a null reading

one has a ton of active belts

one has a ton of active robots

one has a ton of active biters

etc.
One map that has part of everything is enough I believe.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:38 pm
by kovarex
The way I measured performance when optimising factorio was using the FatorioTestBinary this way:

FactorioTest.exe --save <save-name> --update-count 500 --repeat-count 10

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:20 pm
by ratchetfreak
kovarex wrote:
One map that has part of everything is enough I believe.
But then a screenshot of the performance profiling should also be included (and hoping that it's accurate enough)

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:33 pm
by daniel34
I have some data points for you ;)

PC 1 (desktop)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz)
RAM: 16 GB Kingston
DISK: 1x 128GB SSD for OS, 1x 3TB HDD for data
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2GB VRAM)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Score: 9.9 FPS / 9900 UPS
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PC 2 (laptop)
Acer Aspire E15 (ES1-512-P1SM)
CPU: Intel Pentium N3540 (2.16GHz)
RAM: 4GB DDR3
DISK: 500GB HDD
GPU: Intel HD Graphics (yes, that's what GPU-Z says), unknown RAM
OS: Windows 10
Score: 7.5 FPS / 7580 UPS
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PC 3 (laptop)
Samsung Ultra Touch 740U3E
CPU: Intel Core i7-3537U (2x2GHz)
RAM: 6GB DDR3
DISK: 256GB SSD
GPU: AMD Radeon 8570M (1GB VRAM)
OS: Windows 10
Score: 20.7 FPS / 20660 UPS
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PC 4 (laptop)
Acer Aspire 5738Z
CPU: Intel Pentium T4300 (2x 2.1GHz)
RAM: 3GB Hyundai RAM
DISK: 1x 400GB HDD
GPU: Intel 4 Series Express Chipset (BIOS and GPU-Z say 64MB VRAM, dxdiag says 1308 MB VRAM)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Score: 4.9 FPS / 4890 UPS
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I'm actually surprised that my laptop (PC 3) ranks better than my desktop PC (PC 1) because in most applications (video editing/rendering, chess) it is better than my laptop. I even got 25k+ average on that laptop, don't know why it went down to 20k when I recorded these results one day later.

EDIT: edited out the RAM speed values (MHz), I think that cpu-z reports them wrong (or I'm missing something).

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:35 am
by Alekthefirst
daniel34 wrote:
EDIT: edited out the RAM speed values (MHz), I think that cpu-z reports them wrong (or I'm missing something).
CPU-z reports the internal data rates for your RAM, DDR stands for double data rate, so your bus speed is double the internal data rate. So if CPU-z reads 800MHz, then you have 1600MHz bus speed.
daniel34 wrote:I'm actually surprised that my laptop (PC 3) ranks better than my desktop PC (PC 1) because in most applications (video editing/rendering, chess) it is better than my laptop.
Your desktop PC has much better RAM, which is extremely important in video editing. While 16GB is a lot in gaming, in video editing it is considered a bare minimum, as 8GB will push a lot of the files in you workflow over to some sideload cache on you ssd. Also it has that 750TI, and every good video editing application out there will use that to accelerate the rendering process. Hence, your desktop is still much faster for those tasks, despite its slower CPU

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:32 am
by freak0ut!
Long time owner of the game and reader of the forums here, thought this was worthy to finally register for the forums ;)

Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Windows 8.1
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 4x 3.40GHz
GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970
RAM: DDR3 8GB 1600 MHZ
Storage: SSD

Average UPS: 32123.5
Average FPS: 32.1
Screenshot:

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:45 pm
by prg
Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Raspbian (host), Gentoo (x86 chroot)
CPU: static qemu-i386 running on an ARM1176JZF-S, 700MHz
GPU: Mesa 11.0.6 softpipe
RAM: 448MiB (64MiB of the total 512MiB are stolen by the SoC's GPU that't not even used here)
Storage: 16GiB class 6 SD card, chroot mounted over NFS

Average UPS: 0.0
Average FPS: 0.0

Didn't yet manage to zoom in, but I doubt it would increase performance much.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:18 pm
by sillyfly
prg wrote: Factorio Version: 0.12.19
Specs:
OS: Raspbian (host), Gentoo (x86 chroot)
CPU: static qemu-i386 running on an ARM1176JZF-S, 700MHz
GPU: Mesa 11.0.6 softpipe
RAM: 448MiB (64MiB of the total 512MiB are stolen by the SoC's GPU that't not even used here)
Storage: 16GiB class 6 SD card, chroot mounted over NFS

Average UPS: 0.0
Average FPS: 0.0

Didn't yet manage to zoom in, but I doubt it would increase performance much.
Is it actually playable before setting game speed to 1000?

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:33 pm
by prg
sillyfly wrote:Is it actually playable before setting game speed to 1000?
Factorio on a software renderer running in an emulator on a 700MHz ARM CPU? No, no it's not playable.

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15119.321 Factorio initialised
Just starting the game took over 4h.

Re: Performance comparison for different computer setups

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:40 pm
by sillyfly
Thought so. Didn't actually look at the timing :oops: