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Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:17 am
by FuryoftheStars
Veden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:58 am
orzelek wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:21 pm
And I do recall Rampant working with RSO generated bases but that was long time ago.
I'm pretty sure that the issue might be in the fact that RSO disables normal generation and creates the bases by hand in on chunk (and they are not confined to that chunk).
Was there any chance in getting Rampant and RSO working together on this again?
With enabling Vanilla enemies and disabling RSO's, I'm finding the only way to push enemies back from my starting position is to use the Starting area size slider, but this causes other side affects, like pushing the resources around and (for what ever reason with the combination of mods I'm using) initial map generation takes longer (which is a pita during map hunting).
Unless there's a way for a mod to do enemy cleanup around a configurable starting area that won't affect resources....
Edit: Should've kept experimenting. Found that decreasing the Size slider on the enemies tab to 50% caused the two bases nearest me to disappear. I'll leave this post, though, as it'd still be nice....
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:29 pm
by orzelek
FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:17 am
Veden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:58 am
orzelek wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:21 pm
And I do recall Rampant working with RSO generated bases but that was long time ago.
I'm pretty sure that the issue might be in the fact that RSO disables normal generation and creates the bases by hand in on chunk (and they are not confined to that chunk).
Was there any chance in getting Rampant and RSO working together on this again?
With enabling Vanilla enemies and disabling RSO's, I'm finding the only way to push enemies back from my starting position is to use the Starting area size slider, but this causes other side affects, like pushing the resources around and (for what ever reason with the combination of mods I'm using) initial map generation takes longer (which is a pita during map hunting).
Unless there's a way for a mod to do enemy cleanup around a configurable starting area that won't affect resources....
Edit: Should've kept experimenting. Found that decreasing the Size slider on the enemies tab to 50% caused the two bases nearest me to disappear. I'll leave this post, though, as it'd still be nice....
One way I see this could work is if Rampant would have an external interface to register an enemy base.
So RSO could create base as usual and then tell Rampant where is it.
Modifying RSO to behave exactly like vanilla (to create stuff on demand only in one chunk) is not possible easily with how RSO works.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:52 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Veden, any chance your recent updates to Rampant fixed the compatibility issues with mods that spawn spawners, like RSO?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:44 am
by Veden
FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:52 pm
Veden, any chance your recent updates to Rampant fixed the compatibility issues with mods that spawn spawners, like RSO?
Not sure what the problem is. Nothing appears wrong to me.
Orzelek, when you are creating entities are you calling the raise_built flag on the create entity? If so, I should be picking those up. Otherwise Rampant processes chunks on a 20 tick delay.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:58 am
by orzelek
Veden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:44 am
FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:52 pm
Veden, any chance your recent updates to Rampant fixed the compatibility issues with mods that spawn spawners, like RSO?
Not sure what the problem is. Nothing appears wrong to me.
Orzelek, when you are creating entities are you calling the raise_built flag on the create entity? If so, I should be picking those up. Otherwise Rampant processes chunks on a 20 tick delay.
I'm not adding this flag specifically so it uses default for it. If adding it would help I can do that.
From what I recall there were issues earlier where Rampant would never find bases created by RSO - I'm not sure what the reason for that might be.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:17 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Veden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:44 am
FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:52 pm
Veden, any chance your recent updates to Rampant fixed the compatibility issues with mods that spawn spawners, like RSO?
Not sure what the problem is. Nothing appears wrong to me.
Orzelek, when you are creating entities are you calling the raise_built flag on the create entity? If so, I should be picking those up. Otherwise Rampant processes chunks on a 20 tick delay.
It was discussed on the previous page, I believe, but essentially when used in combination with RSO, if RSO’s options to disable vanilla and enable RSO’s biter nest generation are enabled, Rampant doesn’t seem to be picking up on the units spawned by these nests. As a result, attacks are very infrequent to almost non-existant. Disabling RSO and enabling vanilla biter nest generation will then fix this on newly spawned nests.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:14 am
by Stan_The_Man_75
Been having a crash occur when killing biters, tried in all areas of the game giving a fatal error as such, please give advice or help.
The mod Rampant (2.0.3) caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.
Error while running event Rampant::on_tick (ID 0)
__Rampant__/libs/ChunkPropertyUtils.lua:468: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'playerCount' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
__Rampant__/libs/ChunkPropertyUtils.lua:468: in function 'addPlayerToChunk'
__Rampant__/libs/MapProcessor.lua:258: in function 'processPlayers'
__Rampant__/control.lua:918: in function <__Rampant__/control.lua:896>
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:18 pm
by Aspargin
evolution reached: 38%
enemy variations: 1
beginning enemy level: 1
end level: 4
7 hours into game and only larva everywhere! where giant monsters? where challenge?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:42 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Aspargin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:18 pm
evolution reached: 38%
enemy variations: 1
beginning enemy level: 1
end level: 4
7 hours into game and only larva everywhere! where giant monsters? where challenge?
The giant sized ones don’t start appearing until you reach a higher evolution. Enemy levels and evolution are not related in this sense.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:15 pm
by Aspargin
end level 4, does it mean i wont see levels greater than 4 on this playthrough?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:04 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Aspargin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:15 pm
end level 4, does it mean i wont see levels greater than 4 on this playthrough?
Yes, but that’s still a different factor from evolution and the size of the biters. The level I think refers to HP scaling of the biters, which vanilla does not do (ie, small biters will have levels 1-4, medium biters will have levels 1-4, etc).
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:42 am
by Nestacdo
Crash --
https://imgur.com/a/rGLSw4b
The version of Rampant - 2.0.3
What is your map evolution - 0.8962
Was Rampant added at the start of a game - Yes
A brief description of what you are experiencing - (below)
A brief description of what you are expecting - (no crash?)
What mods are you using? -
https://imgur.com/a/YGUwobE
Savefile -
Happens when I:
- Place landfill
-- on more than 1 chunks simultaneously
-- a large patch in a single chunk
(those are not guaranteed to reproduce, but I couldn't narrow it down further)
- Move at certain tile/chunk
-- Some chunks are "corrupted(?)", so moving in those throws an error 100% of a time.
I've managed to "fix" one chunk by adding some landfill to it, but it's not a stable solution.
upd. -- mod reinstallation apparently fixed that (~30min w/o crash)
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:57 pm
by pulli23
I grew a bit tired of the constant attacks and having to repair walls constantly - so I disabled all special ais apart from "peaceful" just to see what was causing the constant attacks that never ended (without any nest in my pollution cloud).
However the attacks keep coming, similarly I enabled nocturnal mode, yet the attacks are still there.
Do the settings not reflect in a running map after you change stuff with rampant?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:20 pm
by Veden
pulli23 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:57 pm
I grew a bit tired of the constant attacks and having to repair walls constantly - so I disabled all special ais apart from "peaceful" just to see what was causing the constant attacks that never ended (without any nest in my pollution cloud).
However the attacks keep coming, similarly I enabled nocturnal mode, yet the attacks are still there.
Do the settings not reflect in a running map after you change stuff with rampant?
Without a save, troubleshooting this will be difficult at best.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:11 pm
by nuhll
I wonder: in the beginning the attacks were nearly too hard, but now not even at laser walls or uran bullets... not even a single defective wall (just using some fire and rest red munition towers).
It seems like after the first big attack from me (finally artillery...) they decided to "ignore me".
They are all level 10 now
Btw is there any advanced way to get the creep "under control"? i dont really see me cleaning the whole map from it Oo Like some weapon or faster way then shovel?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:43 pm
by Rykmentti
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Rampant/d ... ab566803bd
For Rampant Bug Report.
Bug Control Save
- Bugi Seivi.zip
- Control Save for Rampant Bug Report.
- (8.86 MiB) Downloaded 137 times
Mods folder for Bug Control Save
- mods folder.7z
- Mods for the Control Save.
- (63.78 MiB) Downloaded 176 times
Maybe better?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:34 am
by benwillard
This mod greatly enhance the AI. But imho you could have the groups going where few of them have died... So it would search for weaknesses... Like recon with small biters... And then attack with big groups where it's found to be less defended. So they would change their points of attack. Now they attack again and again at the same points where they corpses pile up.
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:09 pm
by garrotte
benwillard wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:34 am
This mod greatly enhance the AI. But imho you could have the groups going where few of them have died... So it would search for weaknesses... Like recon with small biters... And then attack with big groups where it's found to be less defended. So they would change their points of attack. Now they attack again and again at the same points where they corpses pile up.
Rampant AI changes attack points or at least direction units group come from to those defense point. Unlike vanilla game where biters always come the same way.
Maybe you mean that there are points AI attacks much more often than others? I noticed this effect, but can't say that it determines the entire defense strategy.
How does AI can detect weak defenses with small group attack? The amount of damage such small group was able to inflict or something else?
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:46 am
by doughj1466
Uploading save per mod topic: "function 'processBaseAIs'". The event occurs less than a minute into the save.
Note that I'm playing a heavily mod'ed verion of krastorio2. I'll upload the mod list file also.
Thank you for your time!
Re: [MOD 0.13.17+] Rampant
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 4:22 pm
by YunoAloe